If you read Kevin Hoover’s report in this week’s Arcata Eye about on what’s going on at KHSU, you came away with some unanswered questions. Hoover raised a slew of concerns and put them to HSU V.P. for Advancement Robert Gunsalus via cell phone (Mr. G is on vacation).
Hoover noted, “During a fragmented conversation marked by static and dropouts, Gunsalus declined useable comment on most questions. Most responses were, at his insistence, off the record and unreportable. On-the-record comments tended to be somewhat bland and inspecific.”
Apparently, Gunsalus has taken some time since then to craft some more specific answers to concerns expressed by many listeners. The VP’s official followup to the initial announcement of Elizabeth Hans McCrone’s departure came out today:
Open Letter to the Redwood Coast Community
Dear Friends,
I’ve been looking carefully at the many questions that have come up since the July 16 announcement of Elizabeth Hans McCrone’s departure as KSHU’s [sic] general manager. It seems to have caused unfounded fear and rumors about the station’s future.
I want to put that fear and those rumors to rest.
As soon as it was possible, I met with the station’s staff and I sent a personal message to the station listserv. A press release was also sent to all local media. However, many questions have been raised since then, and I thought it would be helpful to address what seem to be the main concerns.
First and foremost: Humboldt State University is fully committed to KHSU, and will remain so for many years to come. KHSU’s license is not up for sale and the station has a bright future ahead of it as the most listened-to station on the Redwood Coast. We are proud to provide this public service to our community.
There are also no immediate plans for changes in the programming at KHSU. I cannot stress that enough. At the same time, we are constantly reviewing, revising and questioning our programming, striving to better meet the needs of our listeners. That is a necessary process if we are to remain relevant and fulfill our mission, which begins: “The mission of KHSU-FM is to educate, enrich, enlighten, and entertain people throughout Northwestern California and Southwestern Oregon by providing innovative, high quality public radio programming.”
We are exploring options for leadership of the station. Program Director Katie Whiteside and Director of Development Pam Long are assuming joint responsibility for management of the station on an interim basis. I have confidence in their abilities, and both will continue with those additional responsibilities during the transition.
We will seek to build on KHSU’s solid and continuing success. In terms of both listenership and dollars raised, the station remains number one in its market. Our initial reports show membership is up $4,260 over last year, and underwriting from individuals and businesses increased $14,000 over the last year. Listeners, businesses and local organizations provide more than half the station’s annual operating budget. For its part, in addition to space on campus and general oversight, Humboldt State provided the station with $170,500 from the general fund in 2007-08. This provided salary for the station manager and an engineer, as well as funds for supplies and equipment.
I have heard questions about the handling of KHSU’s reserves and I want to allay those concerns. Humboldt State has always had responsibility for fiscal and operational oversight for KHSU. Funds designated for KHSU have always been directed to KHSU and that will continue.
As part of my oversight of the station, I have been focused on helping it achieve a sound and sustainable financial footing. Radio stations need to maintain a sizable reserve for emergency equipment needs, long-term equipment renewal, and planning. That is why I recently directed the general manager to transfer a portion of the station’s $300,000 in reserves from a non-interest-bearing checking account. Holding the funds in that account had meant an ongoing and considerable loss of income for the station. Now, KHSU is earning a return while still having access to funds it may need in the short term. A significant portion of the reserve is in a money market fund earning about 4 percent interest and a sizable portion is in longer-term investments for stable funding in the more distant future.
On a related note, I know there are also queries about the recent change we’ve made in handling KHSU donations. This is an administrative efficiency that will provide the station with better data support and save it money. It is solely an administrative change that applies the Advancement (external affairs and fundraising) Office’s expertise and equipment in managing donations designated to KHSU, as it does with dozens of other entities associated with the University. This takes a burden off station staff, saves the station money, and provides better data support. Underwriting responsibility remains at the station.
Hundreds of designated funds are handled just the same way at Humboldt State.I’m always happy to share information with you about KHSU. As always, we welcome the community’s thoughts, suggestions and support as the station proceeds on a successful path forward.
Yours truly,
Robert Gunsalus
Vice President for Advancement
Humboldt State University
This article appears in ‘Save the Trees!’.
It’s all perfectly clear now. Nothing to see here. Mr G has given us all hope. Thank God it was all a minor tempest in a teapot.
Please, dish me up another bowl of opium to let me dream away like Samuel Coleridge…yes, it’s all better now.
maybe somebody should bring up the recent major embezzlement case that a VP did at HSU… anyone remember that?? was it 2001…short term memory loss…what?! we are still at war?!
A couple of comments:
1. Mr. G initially refused to talk to me, allowing the station community to go crazy with rumor, speculation and fear. After the initial press release, he said he had “nothing to add.” It’s hard to understand how he could not comprehend the passive aggression inherent in that approach.
However, yesterday, in his press release, he said “I’m always happy to share information with you about KHSU.” All I can say is, that has not been my experience. I wasted last Thursday trying to penetrate the Wall of No Comment. Even station personnel were saying they didn’t know what was going on and asking me to “keep hounding them.”
2. It struck me that the vice president for advancement would not have treated a donor to the university that way. If I was giving $10,000 to the Alumni Association or something, I assume I and the information-hungry station community would have been treated to something better than a low-bit cell phone call from a taxicab.
3. Further, his cell-phone interview came after an entire day of importuning his office for comment. Again, I doubt that a donor would have had to go through so much for so little. Frankly it was almost contemptuous, and not a good portent, in my opinion, for the administration’s intentions for the station.
4. It’s difficult to separate personalities from issues in this. But I don’t agree with those who call for Mr. G to resign, despite what strikes me as a suboptimal performance on this issue so far. I do not believe he is an unreasonable or wholly unresponsive executive. He just didn’t understand the gravity of the community concern, and some of that responsibility.
He and Rollin Richmond simply need to know what the station community’s will is, and that will likely be made clear at next week’s CAG meeting.
Oops.
He just didn’t understand the gravity of the community concern, and some of that responsibility is his.
A related story to the recent KHSU / HSU tensions-
In a matter of days the California Public Radio stations are convening their summer meeting; one of the principal issues is introduction of what is something like a Magna Carta for university-owned stations, worked out by some of the best stations and universities in America.
http://www.us-alliance.org/University%20Tenets%20of%20Public%20Radio%20Station%20Ownership%20&%20Operation%20USA%2004%202008.pdf
What a curious way to show appreciation for someone’s efforts over many years…asking them to resign and not naming a single reason why…
So let me get this right.
Gunsalus says:
“the station has a bright future ahead of it as the most listened-to station on the Redwood Coast. We are proud to provide this public service to our community.”
And
“We will seek to build on KHSU’s solid and continuing success. In terms of both listenership and dollars raised, the station remains number one in its market. Our initial reports show membership is up $4,260 over last year, and underwriting from individuals and businesses increased $14,000 over the last year.”
Why then purge the General Manager at a time when the station’s popularity and performance are at an all time high unless a controversial programming change is in the works and you are eliminating a persistent and powerful source of opposition?
Gunsalus says :”we are constantly reviewing, revising and questioning our programming, striving to better meet the needs of our listeners. That is a necessary process if we are to remain relevant and fulfill our mission, which begins: “The mission of KHSU-FM is to educate, enrich, enlighten, and entertain people throughout Northwestern California and Southwestern Oregon by providing innovative, high quality public radio programming.””
This begs the question: Why eliminate programs that are obviously part of KHSU’s current popularity, support and success unless the image of the station doesn’t meet the sanitary, uncontroversial standards that Richmond wants every facet of HSU to project?
What I’ve heard and read leads me to conclude that this is a very personal, contemptuous, and disrespectful slap in the face of the community of KHSU loyal listeners who have made the station what it is today. This affront is another blot on HSU’s image, an insult that ironically can be laid at the doorstep of image-is-everything Richmond. As an HSU alum, I am mortified and disturbed by this latest embarrassing and shameful action by the HSU administration. Richmond and Gunsalus: You may not like liberals and progressives, their values, and beliefs; but that happens to describe a large part of the community you live in and depend on for support, both financial and otherwise. Offend your donor base at your peril.
What KHSU, and more importantly HSU desperately needs is a leader who feels comfortable with a community that actively practices democracy and has respect for the service a University provides by providing a forum for free speech and the exploration and expression of viewpoints that aren’t mainstream. Students do not choose to attend a college because it practices censorship. Get a clue, Richmond!
Jud Ellington Says: “Why purge the General Manager at a time when the station’s popularity and performance are at an all time high? (snip)
Because the station is performing well in spite of her rather than because of her and to save over $100,000 in salary and benefits.
“Because the station is performing well in spite of her rather than because of her and to save over $100,000 in salary and benefits.” True.
The real issue is taking the donor base away. If they, HSU, misuse it, use it at all for purposes other than KHSU, then the Corporation for Public Broadcasting has a real case to deal with.
Mr Gunsalus should be fired for arrogance and lying his skinny ass off. He’s a neo-con stooge of the lowest order. But so nice.
Check him out–worked for a very conservative congerssman from Pennsylvania named Don Ritter.
http://www.trinity.edu/departments/public_relations/news_releases/rob_gunsalus.htm
Mr. Gunsalus seems to have some of his own motivations, know who he worked for in the past?
Immediate meaning 10 years, 1 year, 1 month or 1 week?
That much is certainly true.
The obvious way to react is to fire your general manager because the station is a big success. Between the station’s budget being sliced and diced, the general manager being shoo’d out, a lot of money being moved around, and rumors of desire to axe popular programs, what’s the real motive in play?
What guarantee do donors have that their money will only be spent for KHSU? I mean something more than his word. Something verifiable. Mr. G wasn’t around for John Sterns. We were.
To quote from that document: “The integrity of station membership data base should not be compromised. The station is bound by law to prohibit other entities from using its membership data base.”
HSU hasn’t exactly been known for its PR savvy, the kind of “savvy” that provides clear answers. It seems to me there is a brain drain going on over there with experience walking out the door, many doors all over campus.
Do they even remember it? The president and Gunsalus weren’t around at the time. It seems they have no sense of their own history. I think they’ll get some edoo-muh-kay-shun at the public meeting. (Wednesday, July 30 from 6:30 p.m. to 8:00 p.m., Kate Buchanan Room)
Oops, my bad. I meant to write, “The obvious way to react is to sit back and let your star general manager *RESIGN* because she has no other job waiting for her, is very young to retire, and doesn’t seem to want to leave campus at all.”
Wow, you could have at least tried some arm twisting to get her to stay and continue leading your successful radio station.
I felt compelled to clarify after reading the belated Times-Standard account of events today where HSU’s PR flack was quoted repeating the official line.
Disingenuous, to say the least. How do these people sleep at night?
Arrr! I did’n do de wench in. She walked de plank of her own free will! Ye be casting no evil eye me way for what be God’s will.
My question is, where is the county’s primary daily newspaper on this? Why is the Times-Standard allowing itself to get creamed on this story by the local weekly in Arcata, the county’s alternative weekly, the blogs, and their No. 1 nemesis, the Arkley Reporter? This is a huge issue in Humboldt County, and the T-S right now….it’s like they are on another planet.
Anonymous at 11:15am says: “star general manager”
Huh? I’d be interested to know what your definition of a “star” is in this context and how you’re applying it. This doesn’t match word from station insiders on job performance.
The letter’s message could be analyzed to death, but I love to study words. I was intrigued with the letter’s title, “Open Letter to the Redwood Coast Community.”
We are all familiar with the phrase “redwood coast,” but I’ve never heard us referred to as the “redwood coast community.” It’s not in our lexicon. We say “North Coast community,” or “Humboldt community.”
Googling for “redwood coast community” (in quotes) returned 214 pages.
“North Coast community” returned 10,800 pages.
“Humboldt community” returned 18,500 pages with the phrase incorporated into many of our organizational names and place names — Humboldt Community Breast Health Project, Humboldt Community Access & Resource Center (HCAR), Southern Humboldt Community Park, and so on.
“Redwood coast community” references seem most prevalent in ties to non-Humboldt sources such as the Redwood Coast Chamber of Commerce (Mendocino County) and the Redwood Coast Community Center (Santa Rosa).
Perhaps the university’s word choice was influenced by its involvement in Redwood Coast Rural Action and Redwood Coast Connect (four-county projects) and the Redwood Coast Tsunami Work Group (three counties). But again, a multi-county project is not a Humboldt community project in our minds.
The phrase appears six times at humboldt.edu, five in pages produced by Gunsalus’ department and one in a Redwood Coast Connect document.
You may ask, what about the Redwood Coast Jazz Festival? Ahh, but that is a name for an event marketed to tourists.
Then you counter, what about KHSR in Crescent City, making it a 2-county station? Ahh, so then open the letter with “North Coast community.” Perhaps Del Norte residents think of themselves as a redwood coast community (do they?), but the lion’s share of listeners reside in the North Coast community.
The letter’s title conveys the subconscious inference that its speaker is an outsider, someone who doesn’t quite understand us, but is nonetheless charged with making decisions that influence our radio station. And that perhaps is why the Community Advisory Group exists.
“The letter’s title conveys the subconscious inference that its speaker is an outsider, someone who doesn’t quite understand us, but is nonetheless charged with making decisions that influence our radio station.”
Bullseye. Gunsalus arrived and began making decisions without having better than a surface understanding of the culture here and it appears that hasn’t changed much.
Gunsalus is an outsider, only here two years, a conservative Republican who demanded Dem. Now be taken off the air strictly for POLITICAL reasons, in an election year yet.
John Stearns was bad but he created that. This mess is created by the VP. It’s all good, though. No worries. Go back to your bong.
“I was intrigued with the letter’s title, “Open Letter to the Redwood Coast Community.””
I was thinking you might be on to something there in terms of a rhetorical giveaway.
But, KHSU does also serve Del Norte County, so the wording may have been intended to include them as well.
I don’t know – do they refer to themselves as the North Coast in Crescent City?
I addressed that concern in the second to last paragraph.
The underlying question remains: how did he come to use that peculiar phrase?
I can’t believe I missed this possibility. Blame Tony Smithers (sorry Tony!). “Redwood coast” is a key descriptor in the county’s tourism marketing materials (with approx. 370 pages containing the phrase at redwoods.info).
An administrator relocating from elsewhere would surely have consumed a fair amount of tourism information while learning about our region.
I have something for you.
I called Rob, and asked him why he used that term. He said that he thought about what term to use, and didn’t want to exclude the listeners in Willow Creek and Salyer.
The quote: “It goes inland enough that we felt that Redwood Coast Community captured the listening area a little bit better.”
Kevin
Well, that’s no fun. The truth is always less interesting.
I know, huh?
That almost falls under the “too good to fact check” heading.
Oh well.
K
explain it to me. why is “redwood coast” more sensitive to people living inland than “north coast”? that makes no sense. I gotta believe hsu is filled with so many new faces that they didn’t know any better.
could it be that someone in his office monitors the blog discussions to prepare him for complaints he’ll hear at the public meeting and when hoover called, he had already read this discussion?
I think that answer is that Salyer isn’t on the coast.
Just a theory.
K
And.. but.. also… you do have a point.
K
Redwood Coast comunity…doesn’t mean a damn thing. Stick to what’s important. Maybe it will all blow over…they did it in the summer when many people aren’t around esp. professors and the like. Wait it out, maybe those teachers never hear about it and it’s over. Then the station is made over.
It will be cool to have Herman’s Hermits, Jan and Dean, Engelbert Humperdink and Wishbone Ash playing non-stop, interspersed with old tapes of William F. Buckley and Rush Limbaugh pretending to blow each other while reciting E.E. Cummings poems simultaneously. Really great. It’s the begining of a new age at HSU/KHSU. Groove. Believe. Never doubt. Perish in a torrent of flatulence. So sweet.
“It will be cool to have Herman’s Hermits, Jan and Dean, Engelbert Humperdink and Wishbone Ash playing non-stop…”
That would be cool. Damn cool.
But only if we can include Screaming Lord Sutch and Klaatu.
Gunsalus’s approach to the so-called unbalanced airing of non-mainstream progressive viewpoints is what this discussion should be focusing on; yes, he reveals his outsider lack of familiarity with the community he is so out of touch with.
However, the more important issue is this: If Gunsalus is concerned about KHSU’s programming “balance” how appropriate is it to offer up censorship as a solution instead of simply adding a couple of programs that advocate the rightwing take on politics and the environment. KHSU takes pride in a tradition diverse programming, and so do the vast majority of it’s listeners. This would be the democratic thing to do. No one twists my arm and says “Listen to this show or you’ll be sorry”. Moving the dial to another station or putting on a CD is democracy in action. I for one would be pleased by the addition; this would simply underscore the values I believe in, including freedom of speech.
How many KHSU listeners will tune in to listen to a conservative political commentator or a anti-environmental show host? What kind of donor support would they receive from listeners? And how many comments will the administration be recieving on an ongoing basis objecting to their content? Let the administration deal with a a predictable reality of abysmal listener support of the conservative shows, a dearth of listener donations and underwriting for the shows, and a constant stream of criticism about the shows’ content. Poetic justice I’d say.
While there is much speculation at hand over the future of KHSU, one thing is for sure. There is a hell of a lot more going on than what is being printed in the paper. The difficulty of deciphering the situation with KHSU and the HSU administration is separating the politics from the personalities. It is a tangled web indeed. Before taking sides on the issue all should be advised to be cautious, as one never know what motivates the choices and actions of the key players involved and there are likely more players behind the scenes. Management and administrators tend to keep cards close to their chest and only tell lower level staffers the bare minimum.
A very telling comment is this quote from an ex KHSU staff member that in the Eureka Reporter: “Culbertson said one veteran of 45 years in the business said he’d “never seen a university that has taken over membership of the station not sell the license within five years because it’s going under.”” (http://eurekareporter.com/article/080722-hsu-responds-to-radio-station-rumors)
Even if all the pieces of the puzzle are not apparent, one thing is certain, the HSU Administration does not have the best interests of the station nor the community at heart. Keep digging. The sordid truth is out there.
How does a staffer for a Republican congressman in Pennsylvania become a vice president for advancement at a California State University campus?
Does that include the new talk show planned for Tuesday nights, to be hosted by noted not-very-leftist Paul Mann?
Also, redwoods don’t grow in Willow Creek.
Indeed. How does a republican mole get a job that pays $182,000 at HSU and be given so much power in a community he doesn’t know nor does he understand? He’s lost here, wandering the desert of confusion, thinking maybe it’s time to pull up stakes and move to the safety zone of maybe Alabama. Throw him a dog bone and hope he runs away with it to oblivion. He’s beautiful man in need of a change—immediately.
On a related note, I know there are also queries about the recent change we’ve made in handling KHSU donations. This is an administrative efficiency that will provide the station with better data support and save it money. It is solely an administrative change that applies the Advancement (external affairs and fundraising) Office’s expertise and equipment in managing donations designated to KHSU, as it does with dozens of other entities associated with the University. This takes a burden off station staff, saves the station money, and provides better data support. Underwriting responsibility remains at the station.
Hundreds of designated funds are handled just the same way at Humboldt State.
Just to point out, according to sources I’ve spoken to, that the database at KHSU worked very well, so that thank you notices were sent to donors within a day of receipt of the donation. The Natural History Museum’s donations were previously assimilated into Gunsalus’ system have resulted in donors never receiving thank you notices. A small matter perhaps, but there are other issues. Why fix what isn’t broken?
KHSU drama fuels uproar (updated) – July 29, 2008
Expanded online version of what was in this week’s Arcata Eye
http://snipurl.com/377ei
The Arcata Eye article is spot on for the most part. Betsy is known for being aloof and disingenuous. However, many of the nameless insiders quoted in the article are most likely volunteers and ex-staff members who have less than perfect track records. KHSU was dysfunctional long before Betsy ever showed up.
I was on campus during the time when she was moved by the president from head of community relations to interim GM of KHSU. I only knew her by reputation, but it seemed obvious she was being dumped on them because he didn’t have confidence working with her as the main spokesperson for the university.
I thought years ago after the Steernes debacle all HSU donations were supposed to be centralized through the Finance Office.Why didn’t KHSU follow that process years ago?
From the KHSU CAG Bylaws (last revised 2005)
“As a link with the listening community, the CAG provides KHSU/KHSR management with advice, information, and feedback on such matters as programming, community outreach, budget, and planning, hiring and organizational structure, service area, and promotion and fund-raising. Station management agrees to initiate meaningful and timely consultation with the CAG on topics of potential interest to community stakeholders. The CAG serves in an advisory capacity, while final decisions are the responsibility of the KHSU/KHSR management team.”
From Rob Gunsalus’s Q&A
“What is the role of the Community Advisory Group (CAG) in decisions about the station? KHSU is owned and operated by the CSU Board of Trustees, which is an instrumentality of the State of California and which has delegated that responsibility to the university. The CAG, on the other hand, is not the owner of the station, but rather an advisory group that can make suggestions or recommendations, which the university can accept or reject. Over time, the role of the community advisory group has become confused, with some wrongly assuming that it had oversight that included responsibility for budget, personnel issues, programming decisions, and other operational matters. There has been some discussion of this in CAG meetings and there is a growing understanding that the primary mission of the CAG needs to be focused on fundraising, underwriting, and outreach to build listenership. Many on the CAG have been working very hard toward these ends and their efforts are greatly appreciated.”
“KHSU is owned and operated by the CSU Board of Trustees, which is an instrumentality of the State of California.”
Somebody please tell this guy he’s not writing a thesis. Educated fool.
From Barbara Boerger, KHSU CAG Chairperson
The only “growing understanding” appears to be in Rob’s brain, perhaps in the form of a malignant tumor – methaphorical or otherwise.
While it is true that many of us on CAG HAVE been wroking on fundraising, underwriting, and outreach, I was completely insulted by
the manner in which this was presented to us. I felt it was a slap in the face of all the work we had done, and a blatant effort to shut us up.
I apolgixe for my silence over the weekend, not having a home computer at the moment is hampering my communications.
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Barbara, et.al.,
There were at least two CAG meetings where we discussed the role of the group at length. We discussed changing the name to “Community Action Group” to emphasize the primary role of outreach and fundraising. I very clearly stated that personnel issues were not a part of the CAG’s scope of input.
I also stated that issues of programming were better addressed through careful review of ratings, market research, competition analysis, member and underwriter consultation, etc. I acknowledged and continue to acknowledge
and be grateful for the work of CAG toward the purposes of fundraising, increasing underwriting, and general promotion of the station. In those
meetings I emphasized the primacy of these outreach activities for the CAG.
At each meeting, some members spoke in affirmation of this direction and some spoke against it. I addressed these issues forthrightly, openly, and in person with the CAG.
Rob
Robert Gunsalus
Vice President for Advancement
Humboldt State University
Arcata, California 95521
707.826.5101
Letter from khsu community group member to khsu pres richmond
Dear Dr. Richmond –
I write to you as a concerned community member, an alum of HSU, and a member of KHSU’s advisory board, CAG. It is very clear that there is a great community swell of displeasure in the current events of the station. As of last Wednesday, 7/30/08, there had been 42 logged comments via the KHSU listener comment line and website, several newspaper articles written in 4 local periodicals, several letters to the editor’s of those periodicals, 200 community members in attendance at the CAG meeting of whom only 20 had a chance to speak, and many, many comments via local blogs and conversations.
Public radio is supported in no small part by the resources of the community in which it serves. KHSU is no exception, and in many ways more so. The Redwood Curtain has created an even greater need in this community and there is no lacking in talent or desire for that medium. We do now, however, have the webstream, and the KHSU listenership encompasses very many alumni, former and future Humboldt county residents, and Internet savvy citizens in many far off parts of this fine planet.
It is a great mistake to have a newcomer to this community in the person of VP Rob Gunsalus oversee any change to KHSU. It is obvious that he has no hand on the pulse of this locale and has met with great resistance. This resistance is not likely to letup, and if anything, it will get stronger in that it will turn into a decrease of financial support to KHSU. I have heard from several sources that contributors are asking for their recently given financial support to be returned. This is in addition to current KHSU underwriters now withholding their annual renewals and instead renewing on only a 3 month we-shall-see basis, leading of course, to the inability for KHSU’s ability to budget in the longer term, extra work on the part of the underwriting staff, and detraction from acquiring new underwriters.
In addition, KHSU staff morale and productivity has been fractured. Volunteer morale is shaky. The only happy folk are the people who did not care for Elizabeth Hans McCrone, not a large faction. (I want to say that since the removal of Charles Horn one year ago, Elizabeth was becoming much more of an effective GM, and that his presence may have been quite detrimental to her having an earlier success in that position. As it was stated that her removal was not due to work performance, this may not need mentioning.) This turn of events is not just about the removal of the General Manager, but the very vision that Mr. Gunsalus mentions but does not clarify. He has managed, however, to alienate every component of the KHSU listening community.
I ask that you take this seriously. I do believe that he may feel quite badly about this, but I think he has made some serious blunders in his capacity as overseer of KHSU. The KHSU CAG is quite at odds with his planned revision of their Bylaws and purpose.
There are several other points in question. I would be glad to list them but I do believe that you are aware of them.
Sincerely,
Keri Raphael
Who let the dogs out?
As usual, nobody knows what you’re talking about
You’re generalizing for all the nobodies and I resent it. We’re all nobody alone. As usual.