Big weekend for reggae with three major concerts scheduled, each quite different. We’ll start with Saturday when the local reggae massive assembles at the Bayside Grange for an afternoon-into-evening benefit to help the family of Joe Magana, owner of the Que Grande taco truck who was recently diagnosed with muscular dystrophy. Not to get political, but this is another argument in favor of universal healthcare. As show organizers explain, “Treatment costs, which include out-of-state travel and accommodations, are quickly becoming impossible for the family to cope with.”
Among those performing to help their friend: Jah Sun and Ishi Dube, Senegalese singer Elhadji Niang with Borom Faal, Northtown Dub with Judrum, Dub Cowboy, and poet Amde Hamilton from The Watts Prophets. Hungry? They’ll have Que Grande tacos. Bring extra cash for the silent auction. This all-day, all-ages gathering demonstrates what a community can achieve when it comes together: one love.
More reggae Sunday night at the Arcata Theatre Lounge as People Productions presents Collie Buddz. Born in New Orleans and raised in Bermuda, Mr. Buddz adopted a slang term for ganja as his name. His 2006 breakout single “Come Around” led to a major label contract and collaborations with the likes of Lil Wayne and Snoop Dogg and something few Jamaican artists achieve, crossover to the U.S. urban market. After spending the summer playing major festivals including Lollapalooza and Outside Lands, he’s on tour with his New Kingston Band and hype man DJ Pee Wee, with special guest Gappy Ranks, a dancehall singer from London. Local DJ Selecta Prime opens.
Thursday, Nov. 3, at the ATL you have Jamaican dancehall star Mavado with Kibaki and Flexx from The Gully Squad. When activist Mitch Trachtenberg heard about this show, he sent an email to the owners of ATL and to everyone on the Arcata City Council warning of “potential for violence at the Arcata Theatre Lounge.” To make his case, he included links to news stories from Jamaican papers detailing Mavado’s arrest in July on assault charges and a related bribery charge (a concert promoter allegedly offered the assault victim $500,000 to drop the charge). Mentioned in passing is the fact that Mavado’s trouble comes “less than a month after his United States visa was returned to him.” Why was his visa pulled in the first place? He was brought up on were gun charges in 2008 (later dropped). Basically, his whole persona is “gangsta.”
Born in a tough Kingston ghetto, David “Mavado” Brooks got his start as a protégé of the infamous Bounty Killer. His big breakthrough came with a 2007 album, Gangsta for Life: The Symphony of David Brooks. A couple of Gangsta tracks ended up in the über-violent Grand Theft Auto IV videogame and no less than Jay-Z was ready to bring him to NYC when losing his visa sidetracked his rise in the U.S.
Back home, a high-profile verbal feud with rival Vybz Kartel led to real life gangsta violence. Both singers were once part of Bounty Killer’s crew, “The Alliance,” but after Kartel jumped ship and allied himself with Killer’s rival Beenie Man, Mavado attacked him in a series of “diss” tracks, among other things accusing him of being gay — a serious insult in those circles — and threatening gun violence. Kartel struck back verbally, both of them sold a bunch of records, and young fans in Kingston started taking sides, aligning themselves as either “Gaza” (with Kartel) or “Gully” (with Mavado). Very real street violence escalated (think Bloods v. Crips) and was getting out of hand until, in Dec. 2009, Jamaican Prime Minister Bruce Golding brokered a peace treaty that was sealed with a joint appearance by Mavado and Kartel at a Kingston concert promoted by drug kingpin Dudus Coke. (Six months later Coke was arrested and extradited to the U.S.)
Apart from his legal troubles, here’s what’s up with Mavado: In September the self-proclaimed “Gully God” signed a deal with DJ Khaled’s American label, We The Best Music Group, and he’s on a world tour. Meanwhile, his old rival is not doing so well. The same day Mavado brings his gangsta act to Arcata, Vybz Kartel is due in court in Kingston charged with of illegal possession of a firearm, murder and conspiracy. He’s also facing additional charges stemming from a second murder.
What would Mr. Trachtenberg have us do about the Mavado show here? “I think the press ought to publicize his background, particularly within the past year,” he told the Journal, adding, “If this were someplace else, I’d also expect the press to editorialize against his presence.” I’ll leave it to you to decide if you want to hear this guy. IMHO, it’s not my place to try to stop the show.
That Saturday benefit at the Grange ends early, 10 p.m. That’s when things should be getting going at the Red Fox, where AfroMassive is recording a live album. Founded in Humboldt and now drawing players from all over NorCal, the rhythm-heavy big band merges Fela-esque Afrobeat with funk and hip hop adding electronic elements to create goodtime party music – perfect for dancing with wild abandon.
Also on Saturday, a benefit at the Arcata Playhouse with music and stories by Jeff DeMark and The LaPatinas followed by SoHum Girls and NightHawk. SoHum Girls keyboardist/vocalist Marcia Mendels tells us, “When performing as part of NightHawk, people would often ask if we were from ‘out of town.’ My response was no, that the guys were all from the north end of the county and that Brigette [Brannan] and I were — wait for it — SoHum girls. What kind of music? Not too easy to classify — think rock, blues, country, funk, Cajun and a touch of jazz all mixed together.” Show proceeds go to Consumer Credit Counseling Service’s program Paths 2 Prosperity, which Marcia says, “teaches kids and young adults about managing money and credit so they don’t get into debt.” Good idea.
Two years ago, when the folks at Humboldt Brews opened the new made-for-music room they call “Next Door,” they booked The Mother Hips, a truly fine rock band formed in Chico 20 years ago by friends Tim Bluhm and Greg Loiacono. The Hips are marking the 20th anniversary with a retrospective box set, Days of Sun and Grass (reviewed elsewhere in this issue), and a tour that brings them back to HumBrews for a two-night run, Friday and Saturday, where you’re sure to hear some old favorites. Great room, great music; what more could you ask?
Did you get your ticket for the Jackson Browne solo show Sunday at the Van Duzer? It’s SRO, but there are a few left.
Tough contest for Portland band-o-the-week. First contender: the 12-piece semi-classical/pop mini-orchestra Pink Martini, offering its eclectic global mix on Saturday in the Van Duzer. “Pink Martini is a rollicking around-the-world musical adventure — if the United Nations had a house band in 1962, hopefully we’d be that band,” says founder/pianist Thomas Lauderdale. Keep in mind that the band is named for a sweet drink — don’t expect much dryness.
Next up, Wild Flag, an ultra-hip PDX girl group playing Monday at The Depot. Bandleader Carrie Brownstein was guitarist/vocalist of the classic Portland alt. rock band Sleater-Kinney. More recently, she’s joined forces with Fred Armisen from SNL in the comedy series Portlandia, skewering all things Portlandish. The alt. folk combo Drew Grow and The Pastor’s Wives (also from Portland) joins Wild Flag on tour. The trouble I find with Wild Flag is, post-Portlandia, it’s hard to see Carrie as less than ironic. Then again, we live in a post-ironic world, so maybe that’s what we need.
This article appears in Why Do People Hate Kirk Girard?.
Mr. Doran is correct as far as he went.
However, for whatever reason, he excluded the most direct connection to the potential for violence in my citations to ATL and the city council. This news story documents shots fired at a Mavado concert, after Mavado “voiced expressions of violence as a means to rev up the thick crowd.”
http://www.jamaicaobserver.com/entertainment/Shots-fired-at-Ocho-Rios-concert_8596970
THE March of Three Kings concert headlined by Mavado, Elephant Man and Wayne Marshall was marred by gunfire which caused a stampede from Margaritaville in Ocho Rios on Saturday night .
“A music and love wi seh,” shouted Mavado in the parking lot at around 4.35 am to the shaken departing crowd.
Three minutes earlier three gunshots rang from just outside the venue. It resulted in scores of patrons taking cover behind trees, cars and bodies. This was preceded by shouts of “fight, fight, gun!”. In total the crowd sought cover three times in an attempt to exit the parking lot. It wasn’t immediately clear who fired the shots.
Prior to the stampede, the crowd’s initial focus was on a bleeding man, possibly intoxicated, of unsound mind, or both, lying in the parking lot. “Him get hit by a car,” stated one patron.
Unresponsive calls to him resulted in the thickening of the crowd and honking horns. Then came the shots.
During the concert, the sound selectors, Elephant Man and Mavado all voiced expressions of violence as a means to rev-up the thick crowd. The favourite target of the selectors and Elephant Man were gays whilst Mavado lyrically attacked his nameless enemies. Wayne Marshall kept his set clean. “We nah kill no fish. We just saying we nah switch non at all,” he stated in reference to gays.
Read more: http://www.jamaicaobserver.com/entertainment/Shots-fired-at-Ocho-Rios-concert_8596970#ixzz1cfPQ8YNb
I’d also like to share with your online readership the most recent comment to my Humboldt Against Hate blog. The blog is at http://humboldtagainsthate.blogspot.com, if you’d like to check it out.
I haven’t even bothered to mention Mavado at the blog; the last post was publicity for the No Hate Here rally held a week or two ago.
This comment came in response to a post from months ago, about another Jamaican artist, Sizzla, calling for the execution of gay people. If eloquence means the ability to help people understand, I find it extremely eloquent.
Anonymous said…
FUCK YOU ARSEHOLE. YOU ALL DESERVE TO DIE GAYS AND LESBIANS. ASK YOURSELF HOW YOU CAME INTO THIS WORLD. ANIMALS ARE EVEN ATTRACTED TO THE OPPOSITE SEX SO WHY SHOULD U A HUMAN BEING BE ATTRACTED TO SOMEONE WITH THE SAME GENITALIA AS YOURS. THINL ABOUT ABOUT STUPIDO.
November 2, 2011 3:39 AM
Mr. Doran is correct as far as he went.
However, for whatever reason, he excluded the most direct connection to the potential for violence in my citations to ATL and the city council. This news story documents shots fired at a Mavado concert, after Mavado “voiced expressions of violence as a means to rev up the thick crowd.”
http://www.jamaicaobserver.com/entertainment/Shots-fired-at-Ocho-Rios-concert_8596970
THE March of Three Kings concert headlined by Mavado, Elephant Man and Wayne Marshall was marred by gunfire which caused a stampede from Margaritaville in Ocho Rios on Saturday night . “A music and love wi seh,” shouted Mavado in the parking lot at around 4.35 am to the shaken departing crowd.
Three minutes earlier three gunshots rang from just outside the venue. It resulted in scores of patrons taking cover behind trees, cars and bodies. This was preceded by shouts of “fight, fight, gun!”. In total the crowd sought cover three times in an attempt to exit the parking lot. It wasn’t immediately clear who fired the shots.
Prior to the stampede, the crowd’s initial focus was on a bleeding man, possibly intoxicated, of unsound mind, or both, lying in the parking lot. “Him get hit by a car,” stated one patron. Unresponsive calls to him resulted in the thickening of the crowd and honking horns. Then came the shots.
During the concert, the sound selectors, Elephant Man and Mavado all voiced expressions of violence as a means to rev-up the thick crowd. The favourite target of the selectors and Elephant Man were gays whilst Mavado lyrically attacked his nameless enemies. Wayne Marshall kept his set clean. “We nah kill no fish. We just saying we nah switch non at all,” he stated in reference to gays.
Read more: http://www.jamaicaobserver.com/entertainment/Shots-fired-at-Ocho-Rios-concert_8596970#ixzz1cfPQ8YNb
I’d also like to share with your online readership the most recent comment to my Humboldt Against Hate blog. The blog is at http://humboldtagainsthate.blogspot.com, if you’d like to check it out.
I haven’t even bothered to mention Mavado at the blog; the last post was publicity for the No Hate Here rally held a week or two ago.
This comment came in response to a post from months ago, about another Jamaican artist, Sizzla, calling for the execution of gay people. If eloquence means the ability to help people understand, I find it extremely eloquent.
Anonymous said… FUCK YOU ARSEHOLE. YOU ALL DESERVE TO DIE GAYS AND LESBIANS. ASK YOURSELF HOW YOU CAME INTO THIS WORLD. ANIMALS ARE EVEN ATTRACTED TO THE OPPOSITE SEX SO WHY SHOULD U A HUMAN BEING BE ATTRACTED TO SOMEONE WITH THE SAME GENITALIA AS YOURS. THINL ABOUT ABOUT STUPIDO. November 2, 2011 3:39 AM
(Sorry about this double-comment — I originally posted at page 2 of Mr. Doran’s piece, only to find that the comment does not appear after page 1, where Mr. Doran discusses Mavado.
So is Mr. Trachtenberg suggesting that we not attend this concert because there will be Jamaican street gang violence outside the Arcata Theatre? It is very true that the Jamaican Ghetto is a very violent and homophobic place. However Arcata is not. These artists whom he is constantly vilifying have never endorsed and violence or homophobia at any of the numerous shows I have attented here in Humboldt.In fact the only violence I have ever seen publicly advocated and called for were on flyers pleading for people to come out and protest reggae shows. These flyers had pictures of people with baseball bats and bandanas over their faces and said things about “come and and stop this show by any means neccesary” Reggae music fans don’t protest at events put on by The Perpetual Sisters of Mercy who insist on displaying inappropriate sexual behavior in fron of children at community events. Don’t get me wrong I believe they should be allowed to do whatever they want in their bedrooms or even at events that are 21 and over and people can choose whether or not they attend (like a reggae concert for example). So I would urge Mr. Trachtenberg to not attend any event at which a performer is doing something he does not agree with and I will do the same. No protests, no threats of violence and no boycotts. For those of you who choose to come see the very talented musician named Mavado tonight please rest assured you will not need a bullet proof vest.
yes, m itch is no activst but a batty bwoy who is on a mission 2 oppress black people and take away freedom of speech. He cant accept thay JA is a christian country that hates homosexuality because they follow the bible and though most dont actually use violence against gays ,most feel that the bible says they should be put to death. Since it also says thou shall not kill, most ja. people feel that Jah is going to handle it and put them in hell.
While direct calls for killing gays may be against the law, Wishing for them to die is not and Ja artist are learning to get around the laws. One can not say “ill kill you” one can say “I hope you die”
If a white power band were invited to town, many people would be upset. They might be upset even if the band promised not to sing their songs calling for the death of all persons of color.
Mr. Doran might even feel inclined to tell people he thought the band was loathsome and destructive, but perhaps not.
I’ve never seen any flyer of the sort that “theskyisfalling” mentions. I completely condemn any such flyer, but I really doubt they exist.
As for “Mike I” I’m not sure how to respond. Congratulations?
Mavado fans should see him when they can. He is facing up-coming court dates in Jamaica on serious charges for two separate incidents. The charges in each case involve assault.
Mavado has court dates in Jamaica for November 21st, 2011 and February 6th & 7th, 2012.
Mavado already claims that somebody tried to assassinate him at Bounty Killer’s birthday party on June 13th, 2011 in Kingston. Mavado’s friend Conroy Edwards was shot in the abdomen at Bounty Killer’s birthday party and later died of his injuries.
(Other than that, how was that party?)
Mavado’s November 21st court date is over charges against him stemming from the incident at Bounty Killer’s birthday party.
Mavado has been talking lately about moving to Ghana. Could that be to avoid prosecution in Jamaica? Jamaica is a pretty dangerous place anyway. Might be safer for Mavado in Ghana.
I dont even agree with the artist but I do believe in the right to hate something/one and to express that hate in music and even use violent metaphors to express that hate such as I t’s cop killer.I also believe in story telling through fictional accounts to express a thought. I get the feeling Mitch , that you would be one of those people who hated Elvis for corrupting the girls of his day.
Yes the cop killer song is a perfect example.Ice T never killed a cop. They tried to say he was inciting hate on the cops but he was expressing hatred for cops evil by saying through a story ,how he feels about cops. Its the same with the gays in Ja. when a artist says boom bye bye and the man dont even own a gun who is singing the song, its not real its a expression of a feeling.The man singing it it not suggesting anyone do life in prison for killing a gay.The same artist sings a song about thy shall not kill.
If you read up about Ice-T and the “Cop Killer” song controversy, back in 1992, “Cop Killer” was released on an album titled “Body Count.”
Police officers’ groups urged a boycott of Time Warner, whose Warner Brothers subsidiary distributed the “Body Count” album on its Sire label.
Warner Brothers defended Ice-T’s freedom of expression. After “snowballing” protests from police officer associations, hundreds of stores dropped the album.
At a meeting with Time Warner executives, Ice-T offered to withdraw the song. Sire Records reissued the album without “Cop Killer.”
If you order “Body Count” from Amazon today, “Cop Killer” is not on the album. You can listen, instead, to a song titled “Ice-T/Freedom of Speech.”
Ice-T pulled his offensive song to keep his record sales up.
Mavado has a right to be criticized for his past “kill LGBT” songs, the violence at some of his past performances and his various encounters with law enforcement.
Venue owners have the right to take all of this history into consideration when deciding whether to hire Mavado to perform at their venue. Nobody “has” to hire Mavado.
Venue owners also have the right to cancel a Mavado performance based on information that they learn about him after signing a contract with him.
Mike I,
You’re right. That Elvis was a pig. Anyone can tell that gyrating like that is unbiblical. I think he should have been thrown in jail, not idolized.
We should all wear burkas. Being gay, I feel it is equally important that men should wear burkas, too, because I don’t want any awful feelings “down there” from looking at a man’s face. I don’t know why the mullahs haven’t figured that one out.
Most importantly, we all need the freedom to call for one another’s deaths, especially when it’s supported by the bible. If your song then gets sung after an activist has been assassinated for their evil, more the better.
One love, y’all.
From http://www.splcenter.org/get-informed/intelligence-report/browse-all-issues/2010/winter/harmonies-of-hate
“Their fear is well founded. In June 2004, J-FLAG co-founder Brian Williamson, one of the only openly gay public figures in Jamaica, was stabbed to death in his home. A Human Rights Watch worker who happened to be in the country reporting on HIV/AIDs was at the scene an hour later, watching in horror as a gleeful crowd gathered outside Williamson’s house. According to her report, the revelers laughed and called out “Let’s get them one at a time” and “That’s what you get for sin,” and also sang lines from “Boom Bye Bye.”
The man who replaced Williamson as J-FLAG’s leader and media representative was much more careful to protect his identity. But on Valentine’s Day 2007, he and two other men were forced to seek refuge in a pharmacy after being pursued by a violent crowd. The shopkeeper provided shelter until police came to rescue them. But after dropping the men off at their homes, the officers realized one of them was J-FLAG’s spokesman. They allegedly began harassing him and threatening him. Eventually, the man fled Jamaica and sought asylum in Canada.”
But don’t worry. Be happy. One love, y’all.
Thing is ,that would of happened without dancehall music. The music is the expression of the society not the cause of the society. You can supress the music but the sentiment will remain.
Thats because its bible based.You should go after the church if you wanna get to the root of anti gay sentiment. Try to get the bible banned and instead of going after the artists.We still got way more hate crimes in this country than Ja. has so why single them out? Go stand in front of St.Bernards church and demand they quit using the bible!
Mike I,
I’m sure you’re right that the music is an expression of the society, but it’s not as simple as that.
Our society idolizes the wealthiest with television programs like Lifestyles of the Rich and Famous. That, in turn, causes kids to grow up thinking its more important to be rich than to be kind. The culture feeds back to the society.
You can believe this or not: for me, it’s not about suppressing the music. But when people are going to rise to fame writing and singing songs that luxuriate in calls to murder, I want people to know that about them, and I want the musicians to know that members of the society that pays their way don’t approve and in fact, find the sentiments contemptible. Part of that is not hosting them. I think protest of the venues is a very legitimate approach towards that end. In fact, I think it is exactly what freedom of speech is about.
If they want to perform for free, or in a public space, I personally think they’re welcome to do so, just as I think the God Hates Fags folks are welcome to make fools of themselves anywhere they like. But I wouldn’t want Arcata Theatre Lounge to host the God Hates Fags group in a song fest.
I hope this makes some sense to you, and I really wish you well.
And Mike, nobody at St. Bernards is calling for acid to be thrown in gay people’s faces. They are not calling for people to send for the Uzi. They are not even calling for my death. Go there and ask if you’re not sure.
When crazies like the God Hates Fags people do the equivalant, they ARE shunned by most.
Does the bible have a lot of homophobia? Sure. In fact, I think it’s at the root of rasta homophobia, which comes from a fundamentalism imposed on Jamaica by colonials.
But in the last fifty years, most of Europe and much of America has risen above that homophobia, even while still accepting much of what’s in the bible. That’s because what you hear in the bible is not so much the particular words, but what you want to hear. It’s filled with direct contradictions, being a work constructed over decades or centuries by many authors.
The bible says a camel will get through the eye of a needle before a rich man will get into heaven. Why aren’t the promoters and dancehall artists taking that to heart, instead of a 5,000 year old prejudice against gay people?
To most christians and Rastas.the bible is the word of god,and not to be accepted in parts. Saint bernards may not come out sayin kill gays but they will say that leviticus is the word of god and that gays are going to hell.About the money thing, dancehall artist are far from rich and if people wanna support them, knowing part of what some preach is hatered for gays,then they should have the right to see them. In reality even with buju or sizzla, it is about 1 percent of what they sing about.They also sing about many good things. I have always been a strong supporter of the poor and against racism but if a white power group wants to come to town, i fully support their right to free speech and a support the idea of a venue that is fully against censorship in any form.It is through free expression that we know how people feel. My angle is no special laws for gays or any group but a strong punishment for any violent action against any person period.You can spout off any idea you want but the person who acts on it it the one responsible for their actions. “he made me do it” dont fly with me.
“They also sing about many good things.”
Gee, what a ringing endorsement.
First, did you actually ask anyone at St. Bernards. You might find that they don’t actually think gays are going to hell.
Second, there is a difference between supporting someone’s right to free speech and offering them, for a fee, the use of your facilities. The latter is a business transaction that makes you business partners. Freedom, among other things, means you don’t have to be a business partner with someone whose opinions you find repulsive.
Does Aryan Nation have the right to preach on the Arcata Plaza? Absolutely. Is it “censorship” to protest a theatre that contracts with them for a fee? Absolutely not. There really seems to have been an educational failure around this — I’m genuinely surprised at how many intelligent young people simply don’t see this distinction.
The following two paragraphs are from the FAQ of Dignity USA, a group of LGBT Catholics. I’m not Catholic, and there is an enormous amount in Catholic teaching that I strongly disagree with. But I don’t think it’s terribly hard to tell that the church’s teaching here is different than murder music.
http://www.dignityusa.org/faq.html
The Church also teaches understanding and compassion toward gay and lesbian people. In their 1976 statement, To Live in Christ Jesus, the American bishops wrote, “Some persons find themselves through no fault of their own to have a homosexual orientation. Homosexuals, like everyone else, should not suffer from prejudice against their basic human rights. They have a right to respect, friendship, and justice. They should have an active role in the Christian community.… The Christian community should provide them a special degree of pastoral understanding and care.” In 1990, in their instruction, Human Sexuality, the Catholic Bishops repeated this teaching, which is also in the Catechism of the Catholic Church.
In 1997, the U.S. Catholic Bishops published Always Our Children: A Pastoral Message to Parents of Homosexual Children and Suggestions for Pastoral Ministers. Addressing lesbians and gay men, the bishops said, “In you God’s love is revealed.” The bishops encouraged families to remain connected when a member revealed his or her homosexuality and called for the establishment of ministries sensitive to the needs of gay and lesbian Catholics and their families.
I understand that the quotes you post were said. My basic point is that most christians and jews say the point blank”the bible is the word of god”. They say that it should be accepted in its entirety and is not to be divided but accepted, word for word.That being said its a take it all or leave it all message they teach. Taking it all literally is called fundamentalist and yes, Jamaica is a fundamentalist christian country so they take the bible literally and that is where the teaching of disgust for homosexuality or any sexual corruption comes from.Most of the roots reggae dont burn fire on gays but that does not mean they support it, they just feel “leave them to Jah “. I have been following this music for many years and for me I really see songs calling for harm to gays as really only a handful of songsn the rest are expressions of disgust, sometimes with violent idea but not something literal. For example when Don Carlos sing”Hand me the laser bean and let me wipe away the wicked them clean” you cant go call that violent.Itis violent but he has no lazerbeam and is not gonna shoot the wicked.Its a song.Same with buju, he had no iuzi,no weapon and wasnt going toshoot a gay nor wqas he asking anyone to shoot anyone.Boom bye bye inna a batty bwoy head, u na promote no nastyness or else ya dead. He never shot anyone for any “nasty” acts. It is a song. As for censorship, I would rather a see a white power band pay to promote their music in a private venue with a private audience than to preach it on the plaza. When I was a teenage the place for shows was called soma and they has a policy of no censorship allowed. You literally had A Gay techno night one night than a reggae band the next, a white power band the next,a anti racist punk band the next,a hip hop night the next. It was this liberal attitude that gave the gays a place to do some hardcore crazy shit that some people would find pretty disturbing. There was open hard drug use, open sex and nudity but they allowed it cause they respected their right to do what they wanted.It was not they they thought it was right. Its like the thing you see on tv” the content of this program does not reflect the views of this channel. I really think pressuring venues to censor their acts is surly a form of censorship.
“I really see songs calling for harm to gays as really only a handful of songsn the rest are expressions of disgust, sometimes with violent idea but not something literal.”
Wow, Mike. You should consider a career in sales.
Mike,
If you really think ATL would invite a White Power band, and you support them because of your perception of a “no censorship” policy, I can at least understand where you are coming from. I don’t think they would, or should.
It’s clear that you’ve given the issue some thought, which is really all I can ask. That’s the purpose in trying to bring these things to the public’s attention.
Peace.