On a misty Tuesday evening, as the setting sun shot liquid silver through an overcast sky, a couple dozen progressive activists came together at Sunny Brae’s favorite (and practically only) gathering spot, the Coffee Break. The activists, a casually dressed bunch that skewed toward middle age, had recently split in exasperation from the local Occupy movement. Tonight they were in high spirits, especially for such a small group of people, in such a remote part of the world, bent on redeeming a corrupt society and rescuing a damaged planet.
It was after hours, but a thin young barista in braids and natural fabrics had stuck around. She filled drink orders while the activists murmured hellos. (Progressive activism on the North Coast is an insular scene; most faces here were familiar to each other.) The wand on the espresso machine screamed foam into a pitcher of milk while bright-eyed locals stepped through the door smiling. A bearded, hyper young man called Falstaff had slipped a Guy Fawkes mask onto a wooden pig sitting on a bookshelf, and the image seemed to tickle him. “I did that,” he told a new arrival.
The upstart organization calls itself Humboldt Village, and the attendees hadn’t come to hold up signs or erect a tent village. They’d gathered inside Sunny Brae’s artsy little drive-through/sit-down coffee shop to watch a couple of YouTube videos and brainstorm project ideas. The Occupy Wall Street movement, which had begun four months prior, lit a fire under their collective backsides, as it has for countless others across the country and beyond. Even hardened cynics have regained some hope that change might be possible. The tough part is figuring out where to start.
Trinidad resident Larry Goldberg, a robust, 50-something tech guru with a thick gray beard and a deep, authoritative voice, brought the meeting to order. Standing with his back to an upright piano, Goldberg introduced Bayside resident Lois Cordova, a soft-spoken woman with silver-streaked hair pulled into a loose bun atop her head.
“Humboldt Village was a figment of my imagination,” she said quietly. Several people hollered for her to speak up, so she repeated herself a bit louder, adding, “It’s getting bigger and more fun every day.”
After a round of introductions, the overhead lights were turned off and Goldberg fired up the YouTube videos, which he projected through coiled cords from a laptop onto a slide screen. The short videos — one called “Who Killed Economic Growth?” and another called “The Story of Stuff” — offered simplistic, Schoolhouse Rock-style lessons on the limits of an economy fueled by frenzied consumerism and finite natural resources. (When the sound cut out midway through a sentence about “perceived obsolescence,” one guy quipped, “Welp, time to throw out that computer!” A hearty laugh rippled through the room.)
In the discussion that followed, there seemed no limit to project ideas and suggested local actions, ranging from bicycling to work to launching an alternative currency (an idea with a long history of failure on the North Coast). Goldberg brought up permacultures, peak oil and sustainability, suggesting Humboldt County join a multi-national movement called “transition towns.” There was a brief debate about the wisdom of killing your TV, some commiseration about the lousy state of public transit and lots of talk about the wisdom of self-sufficiency. Ultimately the group decided that the best way to move forward would be to form smaller focus groups — one would do community outreach; another would focus on economic analysis; a third would develop a clearinghouse for work trades, teach-ins, drum circles … anything!
There was palpable energy and excitement in the room — and it wasn’t just the caffeine. “This is what I hoped Occupy would be,” one woman enthused, and nearly everyone murmured their agreement.
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How did the local Occupy movement let them down? Plenty of other locals have complained about the full-time protest outside the county courthouse. Some even held a counter-protest a couple weeks ago, urging people to “Take Back Our Courthouse.” Humboldt Village activists still believe in Occupy’s main messages — calling attention to lopsided inequity and the corrupting influence of Wall Street — and yet they chose to disassociate themselves from the Occupy name, and they moved their strategizing away from the county courthouse.
This inter-movement turmoil isn’t unique to Humboldt County. Rifts have been emerging in Occupy protests across the country, most notably in Oakland where violent clashes with police officers — including a recent melee where more than 400 people were arrested — have sparked debates about appropriate tactics and targets.
In Eureka, as in Oakland, there’s a seemingly un-bridgeable divide between protesters who view cops as potential allies in the 99 percent (or, at worst, as irrelevant gun-toting stooges) and those who see cops as the oppressive arm of the state — front-line foot soldiers defending our corrupt system.
So that’s one source of tension. Another comes from trying to synthesize all the different perspectives under the wide Occupy umbrella. Critics of Occupy have knocked the movement for being ill-defined, and the protesters themselves proudly proclaim that they have no official spokespeople or leaders. This inclusive approach presents a challenge when you want to move beyond protesting.
“By staying general it’s allowed Occupy to be a big tent,” protester David Boyd said while standing in front of the courthouse. “But I think specific goals need to be addressed, and I think the way that’s gonna happen is through independent working groups.”
In a recent phone interview, Goldberg said that the local Occupy General Assemblies had grown hopelessly messy. These meetings, where activists from all three local protest sites (HSU, Arcata and Eureka) gather for updates, discussion and strategizing, kept devolving into arguments. “I mean, we couldn’t even agree to do nonviolent [actions] only,” Goldberg said. “There were people there who were arguing that trashing property should be OK. Well, I don’t agree.”
Last month, Eureka police officers arrested six self-identified Occupy protesters, all in their early- to mid-20s, who’d allegedly broken into a vacant house on O Street in Eureka. According to police, the protesters had torn out wiring, spray-painted the walls and set up residence in the house. They claimed to be occupying it in part to protest against foreclosures, evidently unaware that the house hadn’t been foreclosed on; it was rental that happened to be between tenants.
Since the beginning of October there have been 142 calls for service and 150 arrests or citations related to the courthouse Occupy protest, Interim Police Chief Murl Harpham said last week. Nearly half of those arrests were for violations of the Eureka municipal code, including the city’s no-camping ordinance. Then there are the complaints of littering, public drunkenness and urination and defecation. (Who can forget the infamous viral video of News Channel 3’s Betsy Lambert demanding to know “Who pooped and peed on the bank?“) Harpham estimated that Occupy-related overtime costs for his department have reached $5,000.
There have also been injuries. A sheriff’s deputy struck a protester in the leg with his baton. Another protester hit his head while being arrested. County jail staff refused to admit the man until he’d been checked out at the hospital, where he received four staples in his scalp. A third protester, Hans Ashbaucher, had several ribs cracked when an officer came down on him with his knee during a struggle.
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The figurehead for Eureka’s more militant protesters is seasoned agitator Kim Starr, who goes by the name Verbena. Her activism with such local groups as Redwood Curtain CopWatch, People’s Project (an advocacy group for the homeless) and Richardson Grove Action Now is characterized by in-your-face provocation — often followed by arrest. And while there are legitimate criticisms to be made about the Eureka Police Department’s handling of the protest at the county courthouse, the Verbena-style tactics there have steadily eroded public support for the local Occupy movement.
Even Goldberg and other Occupiers say they’re tired of the courthouse encampment. “I think it’s counterproductive,” Goldberg said. “But there is a group within Occupy [Eureka] that wants to stay there forever.” Goldberg was appalled by the break-in and vandalism of the house on O Street, so he contacted the owner and has organized a group of volunteers to repair some of the damage. As for Verbena, Goldberg said, “If I didn’t know better, I would suspect that she’s a saboteur.”
Westhaven resident Sylvia De Rooy, a veteran activist who recalls standing with the likes of Noam Chomsky and Howard Zinn, went even further. The local Occupy movement, she said, has become “a complicated mess. And Verbena is at the heart of that mess.”
The Journal recently sat down with Verbena at an Old Town coffee shop to discuss her goals and tactics. Looking a bit worn out, she said she hadn’t slept well the previous night. And she struggled with the first few questions about the big-picture objectives of the Occupy movement. “There’s this control thing where there’s a small percentage, like the whole 99 percent, 1 percent that is controlling, or always trying to control all the resources, um, everyone else’s lives, and everything on the earth,” she said.
Verbena seemed on firmer ground talking about the small-scale specifics of protesters’ encounters with Eureka police officers in front of the county courthouse. In fact, she spoke of that area as a sort of Gettysburg for her numerous causes. “We cannot stop the highway expansion through Richardson Grove or create the environment we need to create so Wal-Mart isn’t here if we can’t even hold a sign in front of a courthouse and we can’t even stand on a lawn there,” she said.
And she rejected the idea that the courthouse protest has become counterproductive. If anything, she said, there should be more protesters, more presentations, more signs. Why? “So that people realize the absolute relevance and importance and significance of us holding that space until it is the people’s space to protest again.”
For Verbena, the Occupy movement’s battleground is the Humboldt County Courthouse. Her complaints almost never address the vanishing middle class, wealth hoarding by the top 1 percent or corporate influence on government. They’re about the cyclone fence around the courthouse lawn (ostensibly erected to let the grass recover from damage inflicted by Occupy campers). They’re about police officers removing protest signs from that fence. And they’re about her longstanding allegations of police brutality. Regardless of the merits of these complaints, many in the local Occupy movement feel that Verbena has lost perspective — if she ever had any to begin with. And they resent her for co-opting the Occupy banner.
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County officials have lost patience, too. At a Board of Supervisors meeting last month, the board directed staff to work on an ordinance that will set certain restrictions on the time, place and manner of protests allowed at the courthouse. Under the First Amendment, local governments are allowed to place reasonable restrictions on speech. But defining “reasonable” is always a bit sticky.
“This is obviously something that’s the subject of a whole body of constitutional law,” County Administrative Officer Phillip Smith-Hanes said last week. “I hope I won’t have to read through every case the Supreme Court has decided in this area.”
Smith-Hanes has just begun working on the ordinance by looking at similar guidelines in other California communities. Meanwhile, protesters are complaining that the county has already placed unreasonable restrictions on their constitutional rights. In a recent interview on local radio station KMUD, protesters Jim Decker and Janelle Egger argued that the county should remove the cyclone fence, allow some type of shelter to be erected and even provide portable bathrooms for the “night crew.”
“We politely declined that request,” Smith-Hanes said.
Second District Supervisor Clif Clendenen joined in the KMUD conversation and tried to instill some camaraderie between local government and the protesters, saying, “We’re shoulder-to-shoulder with the Occupy folks” while insisting that “we need to treat the courthouse area with a level of decorum.”
If anything, tensions between protesters and government seem to be increasing. In December, Egger submitted a Public Records Act request to the county asking for copies of all Occupy-related communications from District Attorney Paul Gallegos. The documents provided to Egger included emails in which Gallegos expressed concern about the public safety risks posed by allowing tents in front of the courthouse. “The risk of potential harm is too great,” Gallegos wrote in a Nov. 18 email to Third District Supervisor Mark Lovelace. “All you need is 1 McVeigh guy.”
This reference to the 1995 Oklahoma City bomber was seized on by protesters as an inflammatory accusation. They characterized it as part of an “unlawful government conspiracy to vilify and suppress” their movement. This line of reasoning strains credibility when you consider the context. Gallegos wrote only to Supervisor Lovelace and confided, “Candidly I support the movement.” He also said that he’d “resisted the urge to go and join them” only because he didn’t want to appear biased in any prosecutions. Plus Gallegos said, “I do not suspect that any of those tents contain any explosives or otherwise dangerous materials.” He just couldn’t be certain, which made him nervous.
Even Harpham, widely regarded as a conservative “Good Old Boy,” said in an email to Gallegos and Eureka officials, “I too supported the basis [of the] movement, but it has morphed into something ugly that [has] little to do with the original intent.”
A county official who asked not to be identified told the Journal last week that staffers found piles of rocks stacked in discreet locations around the courthouse building. Last month, a planning commissioner’s car window was smashed while the commissioner was inside, but there was no evidence that the window was broken by an Occupy protester. Still, some people who work in the building are on edge.
The Journal asked Verbena if she knew anything about the broken window or the piles of rocks. She said she didn’t, but then she remembered a phone conversation she’d had earlier in the day. A fellow protester had said, “They took our rocks,” Verbena recalled. She assumed he was talking about the rocks protesters use to keep their signs from blowing away, but she wasn’t certain.
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Many of the complaints about the Occupy protesters at the courthouse concern their appearance, hygiene and erratic behavior. At the counter-protest a couple weeks ago, Occupy protesters were called dehumanizing names like “vermin,” “freaks” and “human waste.” (There was name-calling going the other direction, too. And, it should be noted, there were some civil conversations between people with opposing views.)
Many of the folks who have gathered at the courthouse are homeless. Some have substance abuse problems, and a few have serious mental health conditions. The Occupy movement may not be about these societal problems in any direct way, but a case can be made that these very people — the ones living near the bottom 1 percent — are the first casualties of a corrupt, consumer-driven society. Trouble is, they’re typically not the best spokespeople for their own cause.
Interim Chief Harpham said the courthouse protest has become a haven for the mentally ill. “And unfortunately there’s not many places for those people because Ronald Reagan, when he was governor, closed all the state mental hospitals.”
On a recent Friday evening outside the courthouse, Occupy Eureka protesters gathered amid tables and signs for a weekly event they call a “celebration of our determination.” A long, portable card table had been covered with informational fliers and framed portraits of progressive heroes: Martin Luther King, JFK, RFK, Gandhi, Dennis Kucinich. A hand-painted banner draped along the front of the table read, “DISSENT IS NOT TERRORISM! Support Occupy Eureka.”
Many people cradled bowls of food or sipped coffee from paper cups. Bright rays from the setting sun bounced off the concrete walls of the courthouse, but the temperature was dropping fast. Men shoved their hands deep into the pockets of their heavy coats and hunched their shoulders up around their beanie-wrapped heads.
A woman named Martha Devine, who wore a knit orange hat with long ear flaps and tassels, explained the gathering. “Every Friday we get together and have potluck meal,” she said. “The purpose is to share and to build the kind of community we want to live in, i.e. the kind of place where people feed each other, take care of each other, etc.”
With a joyful shout, a young man leaped sideways in front of a reporter’s camera, a huge grin plastered on his face. “Can you tell I’m high?” he asked. His name is Daniel Lee Powers, but people call him Hatchet Face, he said, showing off a scar on his forehead. His favorite protest activity is “bumming the man” — having sex on the concrete in front of the courthouse so that the cops can see his ass on the security cameras — “which I’ve done many times,” he added with a giggle. “That’s my way of protesting against the cops.”
A few feet away, a woman named Nezzie Wade offered to ladle out a serving of the soup she brought. She lifted the lid off the white metal pot to reveal a hot broth swimming with noodles, carrots, potatoes, beans and cilantro. Wade brings soup every Wednesday and Friday. She spreads the Occupy message through outreach and often brings supplies to the courthouse for sign making.
Wade was in mid-sentence when a fight broke out on the sidewalk nearby. A large homeless man named Oklahoma got shoved to the ground. He scrambled to his feet and briefly returned the other man’s menacing stare before walking away.
“You better walk away, bro!” the shover said. Oklahoma did, making his way to the courthouse steps where he sat in a wide-leg stance and let the blood drip from the fresh scrape on his hand. Nearby, a woman started yelling angrily and incoherently at no one in particular. Someone flagged down a passing fire truck belonging to the Eureka Fire Protection District, and before long there was a huddle of EMTs, fire personnel and police officers on the scene. They tended to Oklahoma’s hand, asked if he wanted to press charges and eventually took him to the Eureka Rescue Mission, at his request.
Wade, meanwhile, remained behind the small table with the checkered tablecloth, offering up soup. “That’s one of the things that people see as the public face of Occupy that they don’t like,” she said, referring to the scene that just occurred. Wade thinks such people are missing the point. The homeless and mentally ill have flocked to Occupy protests all over the country because the movement represents inclusiveness, she said. “People in publicly elected offices don’t like the public face of Eureka [Occupy protests] because it looks like things they don’t want people to see. … It underlines what we’re not doing well.”
Most people passing by in cars and walking up the courthouse steps seem to be missing that subtlety. They see the homeless and mentally ill as the face of Occupy, and suddenly a movement that was teeming with optimistic energy is saddled with two of society’s most difficult and persistent problems. They see protesters who use signs more to mark territory than spread messages. Occupy was launched from populist outrage about widespread corruption and inequity — a message aimed at 99 percent of Americans. A fight over tents, a fence and portable toilets has a much narrower appeal.
“It’s such a complex issue,” fellow protester David Boyd said. “It’s not like ending the war in Vietnam or Iraq, or getting voting rights or civil rights. You’re talking about a corruption in society from top to bottom.”
Though he stood with the Occupiers in front of the courthouse, Boyd said he thinks that site may have run its course. Still, he’s thankful that people have gathered there. “Now that we’ve found each other, we’re taking some time to step back and figure out what the best way to move forward is,” Boyd said. “In Humboldt County you have hundreds of energized people who are now talking about issues.”
Increasingly, that discussion has moved away from the courthouse. By last Friday, the number of protesters there had dwindled to five. (Or maybe 12; a group of seven was lounging on and around the benches — occupying but not actively protesting.) Meanwhile, Humboldt Village had taken to Facebook, where it had a population of 111 and growing.
NOTE: The printed version of this story said that a police officer struck a protester in the leg with his baton when in fact it was a sheriff’s deputy who struck the protester on the morning of Nov. 14, 2011. This online version has been corrected to reflect that fact.
This article appears in Concrete Activists.

A who’s who of local crazies. What a surprise Nezzie popped up there after her powerhouse showing at College of the Redwoods.
Ryan writes “Most people passing by in cars and walking up the courthouse steps seem to be missing that subtlety. They see the homeless and mentally ill as the face of Occupy”
That’s bullshit, ryan. Tag the aricle “editorial” with comments like that.
Even Harpham, widely regarded as a conservative “Good Old Boy,” said in an email to Gallegos and Eureka officials, “I too supported the basis [of the] movement, but it has morphed into something ugly that [has] little to do with the original intent.”
This, too, demonstrates the inherant bias. Morphed into something ugly? And what has the establishment done since? Not “morphed” at all. Yet here is the basis for the establishment’s activities against the movement.
I see the courthouse occupiers as a handful of career activists and a bunch of homeless people who can recognize an opportunity when it presents itself. The shabby nature of their presentation doesn’t help their public image.
Ryan writes: ” Critics of Occupy have knocked the movement for being ill-defined, and the protesters themselves proudly proclaim that they have no official spokespeople or leaders. This inclusive approach presents a challenge when you want to move beyond protesting.”
Ill defined???? Move beyond protesting???? This demonstrates how bad the problem isn’t understood by critics like Ryan. The establishment isn’t changing. On the contrary, it’s moving forward full steam. The protest IS the only recourse besides outright violence, which is obviously out of the question.
Once again, a whole article addresses the protest, but doesn’t grill the establishment whatsoever.
If urgh gives such a shit about image, maybe he should suggest the system stops sweeping the results of their corrupt activities under the rug.
Still More says, “The protest IS the only recourse besides outright violence… .”
The members of Humboldt Village have lots of other ideas.
Ryan, “protest” has synonyms. How about you write a seven page article on how the system is going nowhere fast? How about a seven page article on the projected outlook of humboldt’s environment 25 years from now? Do you have kids? You going to live here in 25 years? It’s not getting better, it’s going downhill.
Thank you for your article, Ryan Burns. It’s a complex subject, & it was pleasing to learn more about those involved. Good luck with the flame war.
“It’s a complex subject”
It’s a very straight forward subject. You and me and the ground we walk on = getting screwed by specific people who won’t show their faces anywhere or speak up anytime other than to sell us their agenda.
People got behind occupy movements nationwide that were populist. I see no evidence that the movement outside the courthouse is populist. It’s a paltry showing considering the political makeup of this county. It seems more people support Food Not Bombs than Occupy Eureka.
“urgh”, draw a line in the sand, where do these people stand TOGETHER? Where do you stand at all? On the same side of the line, hopefully. You are not the bad guy, ryan burns is not the bad guy, the clerk at the courthouse is not the bad guy. You gotta look at the big picture, very litterally. The presence of protest is astronomical, here and everywhere. Consider how lame it would be to complain about people protesting human rights violations in china, while living in Humboldt. “Protest” is being subverted to orwellian degrees. Our time on this planet is limmited, there’s nothing to be gained “protesting the protest”, so to speak.
You read enough of this stuff, the picture becomes more and more clear all the time…it’s like if the north coast journal had a softball team, they should call themselves The Complacent Complainers, or The Little Limbaughs.
Why ask such a divisive question all the time- “Is the courthouse protest ruining the local Occupy movement?” The only reason people ask that question is because they can’t stand people who aren’t like them. “Image”? Seriously, The people that can be there everyday are the people that are either self-employed, work part-time, don’t have a job, or are disabled. Are you going to judge someone for their appearance even as they lay down their life for you? This is the same attitude among some of the Occupiers, it’s ridiculous! We are going to have to look past superficial things and COME TOGETHER if we are to get anything done. I remember when Lois brought this the the County GA as a sort of working group for Alternative Economy because she was passionate about it, and I certainly appreciate it. But there are other working groups that meet and get things done as well, this is not the only success of Occupy (yet you point out every alternative economy has failed in the beginning of the article, way to be). If people would GET INVOLVED, they would find that there is more to it than the courthouse demonstration. That demonstration is important because IT WON’T LET YOU FORGET THIS IS A REVOLUTION! And that you too could wind up on the streets, or without health care. And the fact that everyone just keeps running toward the edge of the cliff with our consumption and aggression and intolerance. A hoard of insatiable lemmings.
very well said, Local.
I stand with the 99.99% of Humboldt County residents who aren’t standing outside the courthouse. I’d stand behind a real movement, not career activists and homeless people showing up for free food (and formerly, a place to camp).
So what you really mean to say, “urgh”, is that you don’t stand anywhere, just bitch and moan on the internet.
Check out the Humboldt Village website http://humboldtvillage.wordpress.com/ to see what we are up to.. If you want to get involved in some way, come to one of the monthly presentation/discussions and be a part of the solution. Also, Ryan forgot to mention that we DO have an alternative economy already up and running, albeit in the beginning stages. Check out HUMbucks when you go to the HV website and check it out.. It is quite different from the community currency in that it isn’t real and therefor doesn’t need to be created.. and you don’t need any money to be a part of it..
The way I see it 1:54, you lot are doing the ‘bitching and moaning.’ I’m just explaining why you have next to no support in Humboldt County. How you respond to that revelation is up to you. It seems you’ve chosen to respond by complaining, admitting no issues on your side of the fence, and blaming the Journal because reality has an anti-Humboldt Village bias.
“Duh got meth brother, duh what be us be battle again?????”
How old are you, “urgh”?
Fortunately for the rest of the world, most people are not as superficial as you, 11:13. You speak for an ignorant few at best.
Ryan,Ryan…. your story was weak at best. I hate the way you betrayed that lady, Verbena. That splinter group is a joke too. Maybe they want to ask permission before they do anything, too?? You are not a part of the movement if you are hiding in some warm coffee house picking at folks you don’t like. Ryan you had so much to write about like the occupy people were having their rights violated, what the occupy movement is about, O convictions on the occupy people. 100 something arrest? 45 dismissed cases, EPD shows police bruetality. Our D.A. Sucks and he wrote a ” go get em” e-mail to EPD! Gallegos= Farmer!! Gezzzz so much, and again the journal misses it!! I feel like this is another Arkley rag. we will use them to start fires, and never read them again!!
So other than being a huge drain on tax dollars has any OWS protest done anything other than piss off everybody around them? Sure sure, OWS hasn’t been as large of a drain as Wall Street, but really, that isn’t a goal to be trying to reach, plus Wall Street isn’t known for crapping in public or on police cars. I do wonder though, if Reagan hadn’t closed the nuthouses, would you people bitch about all the people inslaved in them?
Pretty sure we know the answer to thatquestion. O
betrayed Verbena?? WTF? Maybe you are a blind sheeple, that thinks with tunnel vision “sick of the journal”…but for many of us, this article pointed out some things that needed to be said, about the Occupy Eureka group…and their tactics…..so you want to then start to call the Journal, a “Arkley rag”, or compare Gallegos to Farmer..your mentality is very much like Verbena’s……angry, lacking intelligence and just wanting to “bring down the rotten system”….with no realistic thinking on how the real world functions.
I haven’t even read the article yet, but I think it’s worth noting that 24 comments by the morning after the Journal’s publication date suggests that people are interested.
I wonder how much interest there would be if it weren’t for the people creating a visible presence outside the court house (not to mention the people arresting them).
The airport bureaucracy may be responsible for someone’s death, but I doubt the Journal’s received 24 comments about their blog posts about that.
No, I think we have bitched about the crazy lady and her airport kingdom a couple of times. There have been many stories about her in the past. She’s a real jackass.
But that is another, different story. Funny (sad) thing is, you could remove anything about OWS from this story, leave in the names, and it would read like any other Humboldt protest, with the same cast of clowns.
I talked to some of the Occupy folks while I was at the courthouse for jury duty. I failed to hear a single cogent opinion. This is when they were still sleeping under the steps, though, so maybe it’s a different crowd now.
I am severely mentally ill and my opinion should be disregarded immediately.
y u no fix the form?
my response to “local’s” rant written above is this: You state, the only reason people are questioning the value of the Occupy Eureka, is because of the looks of the people. That is totally not true! What planet are you from, Stupiter?? It appears you view life through a one dimensional viewpoint..unable to grasp others opinions and input on this subject. When their opinion is different then yours, you seem to attack them, accusing them of not caring for the needy…or judging the mentally ill. But i really had to laugh at your so over exaggerated statement: “Even as they lay down their life for you”….oh please, i hardly think, sitting in front of the court house day after day, is “laying down their life for us”……i think our brothers and sisters serving in the Military especially overseas in war torn countries, are the ones “laying their life’s down for our country”. You sound like a parrot, or a puppet of Verbena anyway….so i do not expect you to understand other peoples convictions..because they might be different from yours……keep evolving…..
How little to no life do some of you have, with all that’s going on in Humboldt (and hte world) to choose to make a peaceful protest at the courthouse, of all places, the subject of your constant hate. Somebody above mentions seeing the same names, well, that somebody is a renound internet troll. You wanna talk about repeat offender, anon.r.mous must be a bedlocked pillhead with all the time he/she has on his/her hands to do nothing but bittch and moan all day on the internet.
Nice troll post at 1:23pm
All day? They don’t have smartphones in your world?
And furthermore, some of us need a regimen of prescription pills every day to stay alive. My mental health is my business.
Wow! So many anon.r.mouseseses!
Where’s the nearest donkey show?
Where is the next College of the Redwoods/OWS/NCJ Staff meeting? Because my guess is there!
Well then, sign me up!
Well then, sign me up!
To: Power to the People…..im not sure people are venting hatred..as they are expressing concern and ideas about the small scene in front of OUR courthouse..and we have that right….and responsibility. If you can remember, the 60’s and 70’s…the Movement or..or Revolution….was very complex also…we had the hippies with “free love”..we had others that “dropped out”..we had Students for a Democratic Society.. we had the Black Panthers….etc…etc….so yes, Revolution is complex. But even then, we spoke out against each other, as our concern was, some acts or tactics could ruin the “ends to our means”…so don’t be so “high and mighty” judging others as having “no life”…..nobody said Revolution would be easy. peach out…:)
Citizens. If you see something suspicious, say something. Here is a clip of a brave citizen who is doing his part defending our Homeland at the local cafe. Copy and paste this link in your browser to watch.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=up0uamWkdi0
Remember, this isn’t just happening here. This isn’t an isolated incident. The “homeless problem” is a result, not a cause, of the big picture being addressed across the world in various protests. “Our” courthouse…right…I haven’t suffered one bit as a result of this or any protest, but I certainly have as a result of the corrupt system that causes people to be homeless, throws the mentally ill to the curb, and tell sus to blame people who are outspoken about it.
99/100 people who visit the courthouse are there for reasons they’d rather not be, and you can be certain a large percentage, if not the majority, of them are there for reasons that are a waste of everybody’s time and money as well.
Don’t break the picket line.
http://www.theatlantic.com/business/archive/2012/02/government-employs-1-in-6-us-workers-where-are-they/253016
Peace and good on you.
To By Too johnnymaniac…say What??? I draw my own Picket line …..peach out.
“so what’s happening protest wise in Humboldt?”
“basically, the people who run the local news are a bunch of facebookers in their own little social click and they don’t like most of the people they see protesting, so nothing really ever gets any good press, and the focus of the news is all off as usual. They even held their own little anti-protest protest, if you can believe that.”
I support the Humboldt Village concept we have needed a transition town movement in Humboldt for sometime in my estimation. I think the courthouse scene polarized the situation. There is a problem but the cause is not agreed upon. Here is a you tube video which does a pretty good job of laying it out.http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=VOMWzjrRiBg
Wow.
Police Chief Mural Harpham, Paul Gallegos, Silvia De Rooy, and Larry Goldberg all support the Occupy movement…except for the “homeless, mentally ill, and organizational mess…”
In effect, all those problems faced by virtually every other social justice movement in U.S. history.
Congratulations.
It appears that Ryan Burn is keeping Hank Sim’s ghost alive. Neither can report on the court cases, nor find one of the credible business owners, nurses, teachers, retirees or veterans joining Occupy Eureka protests to be interviewed!
I support every American’s Constitutional right to protest, without reservation, qualification, conditions or prejudice.
I love how leftist leaning people claim to support free speech, then try and shout anyone who disagrees with them down, as this thread proves.
Keep proving to everybody how OWS is full of lying, selfish bigots!
Exactly, 1:40. Protesting the obvious injustices is a great thing, except when it’s right here in our home town. “They’re just not doing it right” duuuuhhhh. The failing system isn’t the problem our arrogant media reps see, but the victims themselves, who aren’t worth giving the time of day. Meanwhile the homeless population in our home town grows, and will continue to grow, while the land around them is being rezoned and the dwindling natural resources get sent out of county. Meanwhile the “respectable” people who are outspoken about all of this are ignored. Meanwhile, our media reps stare at facebook and sell ads.
The protestors protest even here, completely clueless that they don’t represent the 99%, that we support occupy efforts, but we specifically don’t support you. There is a reason you’ve failed to attract people at ground zero for political activism (Humboldt County). Look around. Take a clue. It’s you. It’s always been you. If you stepped aside, maybe a real occupy effort could get underway.
That was a great donkey show last night!
Don’t tell the occupiers but MoveOn.org, who backed Obama, put the occupiers in place to “occupy” the grounds where the Tea Party protestors and anti-war protestors once stood. The political machine of Obama is keeping the attention away from him and the war and focusing it on the mean and greedy big business to promote class warfare. If Obama wins, you will see the end of occupy within months as it will have served it’s purpose. The 99% are just pawns and fall right into place when asked to do so.
Insight is a complete nut job if he thinks that Obama somehow controls the OWS movement.
How ironic to have virtually every “community” media source, and a handful of well-heeled “liberals”, question the efficacy of Occupy Eureka…while their whining and (one-sided) reporting is evidence of Occupy Eureka’s success in remaining topical!
The destitute are successfully showing their faces in public protests, how dreadful!
What’s next?
Declaring them “terrorists” for aiding America’s enemies by showing the hidden costs of unbridled corporate freedom?
best comment yet, 2:07pm!
Buzz of course read more into my post than was actually there. It was never indicated or implied that Obama controls OWS, it was written that MoveOn.org, who backed Obama, formed and put in place the ocuppy movement, this fact is undisputed, just look up the history of occupy. It is also undisputed that the polictical machine behind MoveOn.org had a big hand in putting Obama in office and is working very hard to keep him there. It is no coincidence that the war protestors are now dwarfed by occupy and that the Tea Party protestors no longer come out to fight big government spending and growth as the occupiers “occupy” their former protest locations and hostility breaks out if they meet. Now the attention of the America news media has shifted away from this adminstration spending and increasing debt and tried to put our attention on big businesses greed. However, none of this will matter any longer if Obama can be re-elected which is why the occupy movement will fade away a few months after such re-election, if it occurs.
So the teabaggers disappeared because their protest spaces are occupied? Brilliant.
That is exactly right. One of the leaders of the Tea Party movement was interviewed on MSNBC just a couple weeks ago and stated they have been waiting for the occupy movement to die down before resuming their protests. Several weeks before that, according to a CNN news report, a group of Tea Party activists in the South had to end their protest early when the occupiers who were already present began taunting them and trying to insight violence. Buzz, instead of coming back with more snide remarks, try doing a little research. I am on neither side, just an observer, and therefore I can see how blinded the followers are and how they dismiss any opposing argument.
It doesn’t take research to recognize a specious claim. If the Teabagger movement is afraid to come out because they claim to fear the Occupy Wall Street people, they aren’t much of a movement. These are the brave souls who claim the mantle of the founding fathers? Again, brilliant.
Maybe they are afriad of getting lice? Really though, OWS has been a huge flop, with zero goals or changes being made. They have made some great photo ops, if you enjoy people taking shits on police cars and enjoy litterbugs.
I am the 99%. If the 1% died would we really miss them?
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Ugh. There really are no funny right-wingers.
We have hours of laughter in the Carson Mansion on Wednesday nights poker parties talking about the 99% outsiders who will never experience such an eleit casual group.
OE is not drawing attention to the99%/1% issue. They are a distraction from it. They are the same old band of professional protesters that have been boring Humboldt for decades, capitalizing on an issue to draw attention to themselves just like in the past. Nothing good has ever come from that group of nutballs and narcissists.
Thirdeye aka el trollio writes: “OE is not drawing attention to the99%/1% issue.”
…in his blog post drawing even further attention to the protest. Gratsi!
“…capitalizing on an issue to draw attention to themselves”.
Yeah, the destitute, homeless, mentally ill, have no right to publicly remind us that they are the most obvious victims of public divestment and corporate looting.
“Professional protesters” is a right-wing canard that suddenly disappeared when the teabaggers started making noise.