Joel’s cartoon…where do I start?
Bass – Democrat
Brady – Democrat
Newman – Decline to state
So, tell me again where Rich Marks in supporting a Repub in this race? What Joel is unwittingly illustrating is that Marks didn’t support HIS kind (nor the HCDCC’s kind) of Democrat.
There is a great column in today’s SF Chron by Chuck Nevius that hits on the disconnect between the progressive elements of the SF power structure and the more moderate wing
if bass or measure n or any of that circle’s agenda is really coming from “the left’ it’s news to me. They’re clearly supporting classical corpo-conservo motives. It’s almost like party politics doesn’t matter, you can play either game from either side. Who’da thunk!
I never said that Bass or measure N, or “that circle’s agenda” whatever that is, is coming from “the left”.
(btw, you shouldn’t put quotes around “the left”, as you are the one using that term and creating a strawman).
You are mistaking the majority of Dems in HumCo as being far to the left, when the reality is that most of us are pretty middle of the road.
Joel’s cartoon illustrates clearly that longtime Dems like Marion Brady are Republicans in his eyes, as they don’t fit his narrow vision of what constitutes a democrat.
I think I should use quotes wherever and whenever I see fit, especially to note lines in the sand like “progs” and “wings”, both of which you acknowledge in your statement. If it creates a strawman or whatever you call it in your head, that’s your scarecrow not mine.
Other than that, I’m admitting I’m ignorant of the local drama except to say that signs pictured in the right of the cartoon sure seem like they’re on the “right” side of the larger political spectrum as well.
Go back and read the town dandy from two or three weeks ago. Hank more abley than I makes the point regarding the absurdity of trying to paint us into neat little political boxes.
Given your self-professed ignorance of the “local drama”, do you not see the wrongheadedness of labling someone, say, for example, Marion Brady, a Republican, when she is, in fact a Democrat?
My self professed ignorance of the inhouse drama means all I know is how those candidates/propositions propositioned themselves to the public, hence the appropriate irony of the cartoon.
…or confirming they were intentionally misleading the public because they knew which side of the line people really stood on. If Virginia Bass is Democrat, why’d she vote for Meg Whitman for Governor?
A little looking, it appears Virginia Bass quickly and conveniently switched parties? And doesn’t list a single one of her personal votes on her own website? She lists a lot of endorsers, but not a single endorsement of her own, on her own website? Is she a two-faced puppet or what?
The more I look, the more obvious it is. A lifelong republican suddenly switches parties to win a supervisor seat, even hides the fact that she voted a republican platform the same year. That’s lying in my book.
I’m talking about Virginia Bass, the person who now has the supervisor seat, a lifelong republican suddenly running as a democrat yet voting republican across the board.
I don’t see how you can have a conscience about you and not call it for what it is: lying to the public.
Uhhm, I hate to break it to you, but Bonnie did the exact thing that VB did, only I suppose in your eyes it’s not the horrific crime VB committed.
Bonnie switched parties. So did VB. I did not realize you were in the voting booth with VB, but,well, there you go, you learn something new every day.
Virgina has stated that she votes for the person, not the party, and I suppose that frustrates idealogues like you and the various other frownypants at the HCDCC.
BTW, what they did to Mari Wilson, a lifelong dem, in the primary was reprehensible.
P, what are you talking about? I’m not talking about bonnie neely, quit trying to change the subject. I’m talking about Virginia Bass! It’s pretty obvious who you voted for, and that you’re not going to call her the liar that she is.
If these aren’t cases of deception to you, the issue I’m clearly addressing, winner or loser or whoever, I don’t know what to think about what you think, P.
Why are conservatives like Bass, Newman & Brady afraid to associate with the Republican party? Do they feel safer calling themselves Democrats when they typically vote for the conservative candidates?
Joel’s cartoon…where do I start?
Bass – Democrat
Brady – Democrat
Newman – Decline to state
So, tell me again where Rich Marks in supporting a Repub in this race? What Joel is unwittingly illustrating is that Marks didn’t support HIS kind (nor the HCDCC’s kind) of Democrat.
There is a great column in today’s SF Chron by Chuck Nevius that hits on the disconnect between the progressive elements of the SF power structure and the more moderate wing
http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2010/11/18/BA3P1GD2K3.DTL
The HCDCC would do well to take this as a cautionary example.
While you’re at it, why not add Rose Welsh running after Salzman with a pitchfork, then also show the angry HCDCC gang protesting Marks.
Love it!
if bass or measure n or any of that circle’s agenda is really coming from “the left’ it’s news to me. They’re clearly supporting classical corpo-conservo motives. It’s almost like party politics doesn’t matter, you can play either game from either side. Who’da thunk!
I never said that Bass or measure N, or “that circle’s agenda” whatever that is, is coming from “the left”.
(btw, you shouldn’t put quotes around “the left”, as you are the one using that term and creating a strawman).
You are mistaking the majority of Dems in HumCo as being far to the left, when the reality is that most of us are pretty middle of the road.
Joel’s cartoon illustrates clearly that longtime Dems like Marion Brady are Republicans in his eyes, as they don’t fit his narrow vision of what constitutes a democrat.
Sad.
I think I should use quotes wherever and whenever I see fit, especially to note lines in the sand like “progs” and “wings”, both of which you acknowledge in your statement. If it creates a strawman or whatever you call it in your head, that’s your scarecrow not mine.
Other than that, I’m admitting I’m ignorant of the local drama except to say that signs pictured in the right of the cartoon sure seem like they’re on the “right” side of the larger political spectrum as well.
Go back and read the town dandy from two or three weeks ago. Hank more abley than I makes the point regarding the absurdity of trying to paint us into neat little political boxes.
Given your self-professed ignorance of the “local drama”, do you not see the wrongheadedness of labling someone, say, for example, Marion Brady, a Republican, when she is, in fact a Democrat?
My self professed ignorance of the inhouse drama means all I know is how those candidates/propositions propositioned themselves to the public, hence the appropriate irony of the cartoon.
Again confirming that they aren’t your, Joel’s or the HCDCC kind of Democrat.
Again, sad. And out of touch.
…or confirming they were intentionally misleading the public because they knew which side of the line people really stood on. If Virginia Bass is Democrat, why’d she vote for Meg Whitman for Governor?
A little looking, it appears Virginia Bass quickly and conveniently switched parties? And doesn’t list a single one of her personal votes on her own website? She lists a lot of endorsers, but not a single endorsement of her own, on her own website? Is she a two-faced puppet or what?
Bass is a registered Democrat. Deal with it, frowny pants.
No kidding, that’s a big part of my point. It’s very deceptive, isn’t it?
The more I look, the more obvious it is. A lifelong republican suddenly switches parties to win a supervisor seat, even hides the fact that she voted a republican platform the same year. That’s lying in my book.
You mean a lifelong republican like Bonnie Neely?
This election has shown that rather than being ideologically to the left or right, they are smack dab in the center.
I’m talking about Virginia Bass, the person who now has the supervisor seat, a lifelong republican suddenly running as a democrat yet voting republican across the board.
I don’t see how you can have a conscience about you and not call it for what it is: lying to the public.
Uhhm, I hate to break it to you, but Bonnie did the exact thing that VB did, only I suppose in your eyes it’s not the horrific crime VB committed.
Bonnie switched parties. So did VB. I did not realize you were in the voting booth with VB, but,well, there you go, you learn something new every day.
Virgina has stated that she votes for the person, not the party, and I suppose that frustrates idealogues like you and the various other frownypants at the HCDCC.
BTW, what they did to Mari Wilson, a lifelong dem, in the primary was reprehensible.
I think Joel was inspired by both Richards’ comments on our blog:
http://carolandgregs.wordpress.com/
Joel, brilliant, as always! :>)
More looking, I can’t even believe it’s real, Mike Newman pulled the exact same switch! Is this ridiculously shady or what?
There’s some Bold Faced Liars sitting in eureka’s city council and board of supervisors right now.
P, what are you talking about? I’m not talking about bonnie neely, quit trying to change the subject. I’m talking about Virginia Bass! It’s pretty obvious who you voted for, and that you’re not going to call her the liar that she is.
If these aren’t cases of deception to you, the issue I’m clearly addressing, winner or loser or whoever, I don’t know what to think about what you think, P.
Why are conservatives like Bass, Newman & Brady afraid to associate with the Republican party? Do they feel safer calling themselves Democrats when they typically vote for the conservative candidates?
All three voted for Meg Whitman and Carly Fiorina
Pretty awesome how these incisive politicos dishing on Mielke’s cartoon aren’t capable of using their actual names, while using Mielke’s first name…
Hey, anon commentary and blog posting, just like the cartoon subject!