Prophet Mark also has been prophesying for the
past year that a tsunami would occur in the Pacific Ocean within
the year. In June, he traveled to Santa Maria to spread the word
outside the courthouse where the pop star Michael Jackson was
on trial.
The year's up, but he says the tsunami could still
happen. Soon.
1. Who are you?
Prophet Mark.
2. I saw your name, "Mark Joseph Macy,"
on your website. Is that your birth name?
That's what my name used to be, before God asked
me to change my name.
3. When was that?
That's been about two and a half years now.
4. What happened?
Well, throughout my life, when I was younger, I
would hear from somebody, but when I would turn I wouldn't see
the person where I'd heard the voice coming from. So it seemed
to me peculiar, but when I was younger I thought this was happening
to everybody.
5. And so two and a half years ago, you realized
you were different?
Actually, I began to realize this when I was working
in the liquor store in Redway. I had a habit there that anybody
that would speak to me while I was with a customer, I would just
ask them not to bother me now. I wouldn't even look away to see
who was speaking to me. And so then I heard the voice again,
and that it was important for Him to get my attention, and He
asked me, "Is the promise made then, of no effect now?"
He had moved over to the side where nobody stands - it was over
by the liquor - and I could clearly see that nobody was standing
there, but I could hear the voice. I asked, "What promise?"
And He said, "Mark, think back and remember when I saved
you when you were drowning in the lake."
6. When was that?
That was when I was about 17 or 18, living in Minnesota.
7. Is that where you grew up?
I grew up in Southern California but I moved away
about my senior year of high school to Minnesota.
But, I was drowning in the lake there, and I yelled
to God to save me. And I didn't even have a church upbringing,
but it was like a reflex action and I yelled for God to save
me, and it was just like you were underneath me pushing me up
-- like I could feel your arms and shoulders pushing me? And
I got my breath, and he not only got me up but he pushed me closer
to shore until I could feel the sand and walk in the rest of
the way, and then when I got some focus about me I looked around
to see who to thank and I went to thank the person who was with
me, but he said it wasn't him who saved me. And I looked back
at the lake and couldn't see anybody.
My life continued on, but I forgot that. But when
he reminded me when I was working at the liquor store that he
had saved me when I was drowning in the lake, that made sense
to me. I had yelled for God to save me! He did!! [he laughs].
He seriously did. Now he's calling me on the promise that I had
made. You know, when I was drowning, I had promised Him, "I'll
do anything, just save me!" [he chuckles again]
8. So there you were in the liquor store -
I was at work as a cashier, trying to keep my focus
on the money transaction, and not let other things distract me.
9. Then what happened?
Well, He had work for me to do that day, speaking
things to various people who were going to be my customers, and
then He gave me a foretelling of how He was going to take me
out of the world as I know being in it and put me in a place
to do work for Him, and then put me back into the world - but
it would only be so much, so that I would be doing work for him.
10. So, do you still work at the liquor store?
No. My feet - I had had this problem earlier in
my life, where my feet would roll over and I would have to crawl.
So, I actually did lose my job at the liquor store.
11. I'd like to talk about your prophecy for
this coming year, the tsunami for the Pacific Coast -
It's not coming to California.
12. How do you know it's not coming to California?
God has a hedge of protection up off of our coast
right now.
13. What is it, this hedge of protection?
I've asked the scientists and the different marine
biologists and geophysicists and different people to try to study
what it is. I mean, our Bible says that He can do things like
this, and now we know he's actually doing it right now.
So I've asked them to go out and study what it is.
14. Why does California get this protection?
Once God asked for this test of faith to begin
being delivered, and then the test of faith began being received
by the people, God began waiting for a response from the people.
He doesn't want the people just swept out to sea in a tsunami
and be unable to respond. He's waiting for a response. So he
set a hedge of protection.
15. Why would God send a tsunami to the Pacific
Coast?
He's not so much sending a tsunami to the Pacific
Coast as He is releasing pressure that is beginning to build
up inside of our planet. He said that if He didn't begin to release
some of it periodically, it would want to go off all at once
and it would be more than any of us could bear. So He's beginning
to release some of that pressure periodically, like He did in
the Indian Ocean.
16. Did you know that one was coming?
He told me. That's the only reason I do these things
is 'cause He tells me. He asks me to. He doesn't demand of me
to do things. He relies on my faith. And He just supplies me
with so much encouragement, that my faith continues to grow.
It's so awesome.
17. So your job as a prophet is to tell people
-
I'm just the messenger. There was times when He
had given me instructions to go to a place, like down by the
Michael Jackson trial thing. He directed me to go there.
18. What did you find once you got there?
Oh, it was so awesome. You know, me, I'd be like
trying to call the newspaper or trying to put a little ad in
the classified pages about getting the word out. [He laughs.]
And God's so awesome, He directs me to go there and I don't really
understand why. But then when He gets me there - He asks me to
have a staff, so I carry a staff with me wherever I go, and when
I was down there by Santa Maria, the policemen didn't really
want me to have that with me there among all the people. And
they're asking me to go put it in my vehicle and come back without
it.
And so I explained to the policeman how we both
have a similar job. We're both upholding the laws that God gave
us to uphold, and we're both trying to help people with that,
right? And he understood what I was saying, and I asked him,
"Now, knowing that God asked me to have this with me, and
asked me to be here, what would you do if a policeman was asking
you not to have it with you and be here?"
Well, the policeman got real serious, and he looked
at me, and he said, "I would turn that staff into a signpost,
just like all these other people have signposts and signs around
here. You'd fit right in with a signpost." And so I thought,
right, I could put something on here for sure, and I could hold
it down here, so I said yeah, that sounds like a good idea, so
I went and made a sign about the Pacific Coast tsunami and I
put it on there, and I came back. And having that sign attracted
the news reporters that had gathered there from around the world,
and it just so quickly got the word out around the world.
19. But what are people supposed to do, if they
hear this message that a tsunami's coming?
Heed the warning. and they actually have posted
signs. Along the Oregon and Washington coasts I've seen many
signs, warning of tsunami hazard zone, and giving directions
with the signs of what route to take to get away from the tsunami.
20. Do we deserve a tsunami?
I think it's a blessing. If He didn't release it
periodically, it would be more than any of us could bear.
21. Even the Indian Ocean one, that killed so
many people ?
A blessing. It could be more than any of us
could bear. Compare that with a little bit there and a little
bit here, and you know, He's awesome, He's got the whole world
in his hands. [But] they didn't receive the forewarning in time.
And that -- it's hard on me, but I can be a real forgetful person.
He'd actually told me about this before that happened, even,
but He knew that when that happened it would remind me about
the rest of the story.
22. Do you feel this great burden, being the
messenger?
It's a concern thing, not a burden, and I have
to be cautious with the concern thing, because many times I've
noticed that I tend to get overly concerned, and it takes my
joy way.
23. You have poetry on your website. Could you
recite some for me? Or is that a weird request?
For me it is. Most of my work is in this little
computer thing, and I don't have a printer. I'm very lowly when
it comes to getting this work done.
24. I see, so you'd have to go online to read
it. [Prophet Mark has dial-up]. So how do you support yourself,
if I may ask, if you don't work at the liquor store anymore?
I ended up receiving what I could have received
a long time ago, an "ability" income -- what our government
would call a disability income? But because of God working through
me I know it to be an ability income. And I've made use of it,
and He's instructed me.
And, normally I would not have a credit card, but
He wanted me to have a credit card. He even wanted me to have
more than one credit card. And I didn't really understand it,
I kind of questioned it, you know. But He let me know -- and
it comforted me -- He said if I continue paying the bill when
it comes in, pay it in full each time, I could make use of this
credit card as a tool. But if I do not pay the bill when it comes
in on time like that, that credit card could become a burden.
God knows what's going on here. He wants people
to help me, but it's up to people's faith as to whether they
will or not.
25. Do you get very many donations?
No. I live very meager. But God said even if they
don't help me, I will be able to get the work done.
26. How are people supposed to know that you're
a real prophet?
There are different ways that our Bible speaks
of. The first way that's most appropriate is to listen, and to
watch for the signs. And, the key in this, that our Bible offers,
is a promise made in the beginning, and has been kept continually:
There is no one allowed to speak, thus says the Lord of Hosts,
before delivering a message from God, without it actually being
from God. Anyone doing it without it being from God, He has,
and will, quickly put a stop to it.
27. The extreme flooding that happens periodically
around here -- is that natural, or ?
We get a bunch of rain before the big drought begins.
28. There's a big drought coming?
A drying up of the land, beginning in the West
and moving East, as the contentiousness among us continues. I
see that scientifically, and geophysically, with the tsunami
prophecy and the earth, He creates these changes that could all
of a sudden cut off a stream that comes this way and re-route
it to go another way where there was no water coming forth from
the ground. It's so simple for Him; for us, it's like, we gotta
study it and figure it out. But for him, He's got it all under
control.
29. What does your wife think of all this? [The
Prophet Mark has been married almost 20 years.]
She doesn't hear the voice. She doesn't hear what
I hear. But she sees the seriousness that I have in this matter.
Recently, since this began happening to me, I really
have changed. [He laughs.] I'd kind of like began to give up,
get futilistic even though I knew better, and I was kind of losing
hope for a lot of things -- for people, and for circumstances.
I was just really getting depressed, and when God brought the
second test of faith message, and He told me how I was hearing
from Him, he spoke that He was able to see something that was
able to enter into to me whenever it wanted to, rob me of joy
that God gives me whenever it wants to, and leave from within
me whenever it wants to.
That was pretty concerning to me, and then He said
there was a spirit of depression in our nation that's like a
plague, and it's spreading quickly throughout the world, and
that He could give me the cure for my depression in one word,
and that if I know the truth -- that was the key word, the truth
of that one word, and keep that truth close to my heart and hold
it there, that when the spirit of depression again tried to enter
into me, it would not be welcome. It would not even get into
me. And it works, it works so well. He said that I may share
this one-word cure with others --
30. What is the one word?
and it may also be of use to some others, but not
for everybody, but that they also would need to know the truth
of this one word and also know the truth of this one word and
also know to hold it close to their heart and keep it there --
31. What is the one word?
Thus says the Lord -- oh, when I share it, He asks
me to speak it in the same manner that He spoke it to me; there's
a lingering pause towards the end of the sentence that just had
me craving and desiring for that cure even more -- Thus says
the Lord of Hosts, the one word that is the cure for your --
[long pause] - depression is "selfish."
And I acknowledged the truth of that word, quick.
I'm hearing from God, right? And here He's telling me this word
"selfish," and all of a sudden He's moving with the
holy spirit in my mind and I'm seeing myself over here wallowing
in the corner in my selfish depression, rather than getting out
there and doing the work for Him. [He laughs]
So it was a big trip. You know, "Wow, I'm
being selfish. I don't wanna be. I'm sorry!" It works, the
cure really does work.
Prophet
Mark lives in Redway next to the California Highway Patrol office.
Once, long ago, he was a newspaper reporter in Indiana. But the
53-year-old has been in this area about 20 years. And one day,
as he tells it, down by the Mattole River, he had a vision of
the land drying up. After another such vision, he says he had
his work cut out for him: to deliver a three-part "test
of faith" message to the world. He spends a lot of time
on the 'net now, adding poetry to and otherwise fine-tuning his
website (prophetmark.com).