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Re: “Irie vs. Irate

You can't change my mind because I've already thought of the arguments you and your ilk have presented... I try to see it from your view. I read the info from link to the Amnesty International page. There is nothing on there about canceling the international tours as a way to fight the homophobia present in Jamaica. Too bad that some of you all don't see yourselves as valuable members of the community. You have a lot to offer, don't take that for granted, and don't take the rest of the community for fools in thinking that they'd suddenly turn into anti-gay lunatics because of a stage show. As harsh as it is, I think you should take the advice of sac-town, because when presented with the arguments that I have made you either resort to making issue of quotation marks, or you just quit.

Posted by Max Wins on 03/06/2010 at 5:37 PM

Re: “Irie vs. Irate

By your line of reasoning you could fight inner-city poverty by protesting rap artists that have songs about having to hustle drugs in their ghetto to survive.

Posted by Max Garrison on 03/06/2010 at 3:58 PM

Re: “Irie vs. Irate

No Mitch, it is clear that what you are making sure is that these artists don't even get to perform. If you just wanted to inform the audience, then pamphlets would suffice. I have been knowingly listening to this so called 'murder music' for over 10 years, I am still yet to have the desire to kill any gay people. It was you that asked me this: "does it bother you that these artists are urging "torture, mutilation, and murder" of gay people?" Your use of the word "urging" suggests that you feel that the focus of his stage show is violence towards gays. So you should own what you say. You are not protesting hate crimes by keeping music from playing, what you're doing is censorship.

Posted by Max Garrison on 03/06/2010 at 3:31 PM

Re: “Irie vs. Irate

So the point that I'm missing is that gays have been victims through the ages, some gays are insecure with who they are, and they don't like to hear others talking bad about them..... It seems to me that hate crimes directed at gays have been going on long before Buju recorded 'boom bye bye'. They are not going to stop just because you all are successful in getting shows/tours canceled. Sorry. Screwdriver/skinhead music is not the same as Buju/reggae. Just look at the people that attend the shows. No I am not talking about skin color. For the record, Yes I'd find it lame and offensive if there were anti-black performances going on in my town, but you know what, I can chose to not go, as can you. I don't have agree with/condone everything that is said by everyone in my town, and neither should you. As long as you all keep convincing yourselves that the main objective of artists like Capleton is to promote violence against gays, no one will convince you that your fight is misdirected, which it is. You all need to get over yourselves and go after something that will get to the root of the hate. There's no dignity or virtue in fighting music.

Posted by Max Again on 03/06/2010 at 2:03 PM

Re: “Irie vs. Irate

Mitch, Your questions are quite silly, they barely deserve a response, but since you seem so mislead I feel it necessary to give you a reality check. You seem to be trying to get my emotions going so I approach this in an irrational way. You really think that these artists are coming here to "urge torture, mutilation, and murder." Do you realize how dumb that sounds? Bounty Killer, Capleton, Sizzla, Elephant Man and Buju Banton have all performed in Humboldt County in the past. Please show me any hate crimes that were directed towards the gay community in response to those shows taking place. You're acting like the main message that these artists are pushing in their stage show is "murder, mutilation, and torture" Not so. Do you think that there would be a festival as long lasting as reggae on the river, or one as well attended as reggae rising is if they had artists performing such a violent set? They have their views, and while you and your ilk may not find them as dignified as your cause, expecting them to censor themselves is just as foolish as me asking you to apologize for the expression of your sexual preference.

Posted by Max Garrison on 03/04/2010 at 7:33 PM

Re: “Irie vs. Irate

This is all well and good, but the fact remains that this is Humboldt County, and not Jamaica. There would be no out lash towards the gay community even if these artist had been able to perform. Whats more is that Jamaican reggae artists ostracize themselves and look silly when they perform these type of lyrics in California. I've seen it happen. I know that the threat of violence shouldn't be protected by free speech, but it seems foolish of the gay community to think that people attending a reggae show would be so simple-minded that they'd act out against other community members just because of lyrics.

Posted by Max Garrison on 03/04/2010 at 3:45 PM

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