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Re: “Beer Me, Jesus

yep, there it is, a joke to ventilate the disavowal, textbook repression Deric. Atheism is illogical as James offered. I suggest you take him up on his offer and read the reasoning. But is sounds like you yourself aren't as reasonable as you wear on your sleeve. Reason alone wont reveal the truth to you anyway. It will only help remove the illusions you've put in the place of truth.

Posted by Larry on 08/31/2010 at 12:21 PM

Re: “Beer Me, Jesus

Deric, it is more difficult that we think to simply clear up a misconception. What you claim to believe is a lot more simple than what may be in your subconscious. Are we so prideful to judge our own hearts? I believe you are aware at the core of your being that you are in relation to a higher power, but because of hurts you've received in life, you have projected your anger onto a cultural fabrication of "God". This "fabric" becomes the fetishized object of your disavowal of the higher power. When challenged with this, you joke your way out. Yes, man made ideas of God are no different than Zeus, tooth fairy or Jedi. But the idea of God is beyond man made ideas. A chair is a man made object, a place of rest. But a place of rest exists without man's inventions of it. With all humility remain open hearted. The idea of God may appear unkind to you, but there is One who is like a perfect father and loves you more than you could ever comprehend. Who are we to judge God according to man made ideas about this One?

Posted by Larry on 08/31/2010 at 11:09 AM

Re: “Beer Me, Jesus

Anybody listening to KSLG right now, While Dan is making some great points, some of his statements are very revealing. "We don't deny heaven or hell because it seems to make people upset." Dan Davis Galatians 1:10 Am I now trying to win the approval of men, or of God? Or am I trying to please men? If I were still trying to please men, I would not be a servant of Christ. 1 Thessalonians 2:4 On the contrary, we speak as men approved by God to be entrusted with the gospel. We are not trying to please men but God, who tests our hearts.

Posted by Buddy on 08/31/2010 at 10:56 AM

Re: “Beer Me, Jesus

wow I really feel this pit trying to suck me in

Posted by Larry on 08/31/2010 at 9:11 AM

Re: “Beer Me, Jesus

one more thing and if my last post didn't provoke wrath, this one is sure to. Most of us understand that there are those who believe in God, those who are agnostic and refuse to choose, and those who simply are aware of God in their heart but hate Him and call themselves atheists. No one will deny the infinite when they die, but many will regret denying while they were alive.

Posted by Larry on 08/31/2010 at 9:10 AM

Re: “Beer Me, Jesus

I think we falsely justify ourselves by judging others. Dan mentioned that pastors compromise their messages to get numbers as if by "not" doing that, he is right. Or as someone else brought up that Dan brings up 'doing activist work to convert is wrong, we don't do that therefore we are right.' These issues aren't so black and white. We all love to judge to ignore our own struggles. Someone suggested rather abrasively that Catalyst should alternate worship leaders. Catalyst is good to alternate their speakers, perhaps they should apply the same logic to their worship leaders. Just a thought. I'm going to get a life now before someone tells me to.

Posted by Larry on 08/31/2010 at 9:05 AM

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