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Re: “Public Health: Humboldt Now Has 40 Confirmed COVID-19 Cases

What is included in “Covid-19 death” statistics? https://www.lifesitenews.com/opinion/probl…

Posted by KeyboardKommander on 04/04/2020 at 7:03 AM

Re: “Public Health: Humboldt Now Has 40 Confirmed COVID-19 Cases

How many asymptomatic cases have we found or are we just testing those with symptoms? Are we making decisions in this country without the proper scientific knowledge?

Why is Germany’s death rate lower then everyone else’s? https://news.sky.com/story/coronavirus-why…

Posted by KeyboardKommander on 04/04/2020 at 6:37 AM

Re: “Public Health Officer Explains Shelter in Place Order

Thad,

Here are more health and safety code sections which demonstrate that health officer powers are limited to quarantine and isolation orders which only apply to infected persons AND specific locations:

120215. Upon receiving information of the existence of contagious, infectious, or communicable disease for which the department may from time to time declare the need for strict isolation or quarantine, each health officer shall:
(a) Ensure the adequate isolation of each case, and appropriate quarantine of the contacts and premises.
(b) Follow local rules and regulations, and all general and special rules, regulations, and orders of the department, in carrying out the quarantine or isolation.

120225. A person subject to quarantine or strict isolation, residing or in a quarantined building, house, structure, or other shelter, shall not go beyond the lot where the building, house, structure, or other shelter is situated, nor put himself or herself in immediate communication with any person not subject to quarantine, other than the physician, the health officer or persons authorized by the health officer.

120235. No quarantine shall be raised until every exposed room, together with all personal property in the room, has been adequately treated, or, if necessary, destroyed, under the direction of the health officer; and until all persons having been under strict isolation are considered noninfectious.

Posted by KeyboardKommander on 03/22/2020 at 3:34 PM

Re: “Public Health Officer Explains Shelter in Place Order

Thad,

In the CA case law I located, the court is clear that that the extraordinary power vested in a health officer to quarantine (ie shelter in place) is based on probable cause that an individual has the disease.

in the matter of a quarantine order:
https://law.justia.com/cases/california/co…

"...[2] It would seem unnecessary to state that the delegation of such complete authority over one of the most fundamental of our constitutional rights--the right of personal liberty--must of necessity carry with it the obligation to exercise such unusual powers only when, under the facts as brought within the knowledge of the health authorities, "reasonable ground exists to support the belief" that the person so held is infected. (In re Arata, 52 Cal. App. 380, 385 [198 P. 814].)..."

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Posted by KeyboardKommander on 03/22/2020 at 1:14 PM

Re: “Public Health Officer Explains Shelter in Place Order

Thad,

I will add that a more through reading of "Section 3", which contains 120175, speaks to quarantines and even the destruction of property of specific persons, animals, and locations and not a "shelter in place" leave only for "essential business" applied to large geographic locations and all persons therein.

Posted by KeyboardKommander on 03/22/2020 at 12:23 PM

Re: “Public Health Officer Explains Shelter in Place Order

Thank you Thad for the reply.

I've done a little layman sleuthing myself. As you've noted the health and safety code 120175 states "case of... " etc...

The Ca. Code of Regulations section 2500 (a)(5) defines "case" in 120175 specifically as relating to an individual person or animal: quote: "person who has been diagnosed", "person who is considered to have....a disease", or "an animal..." (with disease).

The extra ordinary mass state and county quarantine, business shutdown, and distancing order appears unsupported by law. These may or may not be effective recommendations however the epidemiology on the cause fatality rate is much in doubt. https://reason.com/2020/03/20/our-best-wea…

This is very much a matter needing further investigative reporting as decisions have and are being made that very well may plunge us into economic devastation and extreme loss of freedoms based on lack of information and fear itself.

Please address this issue by seeking an opinion from our local DA, who is commanded to prosecute these potential violations and with defending our liberties, as the Sheriff and State have threatened arrest, perhaps unlawfully, of persons nonconforming to the extraordinary orders.

Attorney Mark Meuser appears to have a similar opinion: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v7E12SbQLQ…

Posted by KeyboardKommander on 03/22/2020 at 12:11 PM

Re: “Public Health Officer Explains Shelter in Place Order

Thad,

What government code supports this decree? Is it being appled correctly? Inquiring minds want to know...

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Posted by KeyboardKommander on 03/20/2020 at 12:25 PM

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