Ian, that website above is an academic source (University of Illinois). Yes it's for meat goats, and procedural variation as well as market conditions are fair to mention in a rebuttal. However, what are you rebutting? You should note that this letter to the editor erroneously mentions 70 goats per acre and "Dio" quoted the sustainability being between 6 to 8 goats per acre. Perhaps the two of you agree? making an argument against an academic source -- with no sources at all -- and with such a snarky first line, is perhaps an unwise decision. But we're here to discuss goats, not asses.
As you said, goat dairies are not as extensively researched and documented in the US. Studies like the one "Dio" linked to are a good place to start. Granted the variations that you mentioned procedurally, as well as within the market, are worth consideration, but before they are to be validated the facts should be addressed.
According to Cypress Grove the McKinleyville land is 38 acres, which they are going to start with 200 does (5 goats per acre). That is sustainable and within the bounds to easily meet organic criteria -- even in arid regions. The dilemma arises with CG's proposed growth to 1,200 goats (still not 70, but 31.5 goats per acre.) As you mentioned, the research for goat dairies is minimal, however, if CG can financially stand prior to the growth it will take time to see if they warrant the ridicule that a few Humboldt WASPS want to sling.
The privileged citizens who wish to hide behind a vale of faux ethics constructed from misappropriated information and highjacked direct action techniques, who disregard most local businesses and job growth (typically with an exception for Marijuana production) may rear their heads and try to drum up whatever straw-man scenarios they can, but it seems that now is the time to help this facility grow within reason and wait for the "goat-apocalypse." We'll have a better idea about CG in two years, during which time you can conduct the appropriate research to call foul and blow your whistle. Until then, there isn't much value to the fear mongering of a couple misguided individuals and a few privileged land owners who don't know what agricultural zoning is but still preach, "Buy Local."
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Re: “Goat Griping”
Ian, that website above is an academic source (University of Illinois). Yes it's for meat goats, and procedural variation as well as market conditions are fair to mention in a rebuttal. However, what are you rebutting? You should note that this letter to the editor erroneously mentions 70 goats per acre and "Dio" quoted the sustainability being between 6 to 8 goats per acre. Perhaps the two of you agree? making an argument against an academic source -- with no sources at all -- and with such a snarky first line, is perhaps an unwise decision. But we're here to discuss goats, not asses. As you said, goat dairies are not as extensively researched and documented in the US. Studies like the one "Dio" linked to are a good place to start. Granted the variations that you mentioned procedurally, as well as within the market, are worth consideration, but before they are to be validated the facts should be addressed. According to Cypress Grove the McKinleyville land is 38 acres, which they are going to start with 200 does (5 goats per acre). That is sustainable and within the bounds to easily meet organic criteria -- even in arid regions. The dilemma arises with CG's proposed growth to 1,200 goats (still not 70, but 31.5 goats per acre.) As you mentioned, the research for goat dairies is minimal, however, if CG can financially stand prior to the growth it will take time to see if they warrant the ridicule that a few Humboldt WASPS want to sling. The privileged citizens who wish to hide behind a vale of faux ethics constructed from misappropriated information and highjacked direct action techniques, who disregard most local businesses and job growth (typically with an exception for Marijuana production) may rear their heads and try to drum up whatever straw-man scenarios they can, but it seems that now is the time to help this facility grow within reason and wait for the "goat-apocalypse." We'll have a better idea about CG in two years, during which time you can conduct the appropriate research to call foul and blow your whistle. Until then, there isn't much value to the fear mongering of a couple misguided individuals and a few privileged land owners who don't know what agricultural zoning is but still preach, "Buy Local."