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Re: “Dark of Night Edits to a Sungrown Ordinance

For decades, Humboldt County government, businesses and residents got all in on the marijuana game...betting everything. The Humboldt County marijuana-based economy is, of course, on a steady and ceaseless decline as California and other states move to legalization. Thus, Humboldt County government, businesses and residents deserve the cesspool that Humboldt County has become due to their full embrace of the marijuana-based economy and the rot will only intensify. It is all just desserts.

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Posted by Reading NCJ on 10/23/2017 at 5:24 PM

Re: “Dark of Night Edits to a Sungrown Ordinance

I'm not seeing the real economics of legalization of the pot industry addressed.. Dispensaries and their high prices will no longer exist.. Corporations will have no interest in farming up a dirt road.. Huge commercial grows will be the wave of the future and they will grow excellent pot, perhaps some organic.. Folks who sold their land to big, outside growers will find them gone away to use their money more wisely.. If the owner carried the loan, their monthly payment will suddenly cease and they will be left with property which, though lovely, cannot produce income..Even at $400 a pound, the profit percentages will be extrfemely attractive to corporations.. It will take a few years but the results will mean disaster to the County, to non profits, to businesses and to many residents..

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Posted by Benjie on 10/22/2017 at 10:31 AM

Re: “Dark of Night Edits to a Sungrown Ordinance

This sentence really resonated with me;
"And the grossest growers bulldozing for big bucks operate outside of all rules anyway."

As I've said before:
Many believe:
Strong regulations with significant penalties are needed to get the big guys to comply.

The problem is:
Strong regulations with significant penalties squash the little guy before competition can.

The big guy will either pay the fees, risk the fines, change the rules, or pay attorneys to circumvent them.

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Posted by Crystal Oliver on 10/21/2017 at 10:20 AM

Re: “Dark of Night Edits to a Sungrown Ordinance

Make fun of the farmers growing cannabis as long as you can. Soon, the local economies will collapse as the farmers money no longer buys groceries, tires, dinners out, clothing or high property taxes. Welfare rolls will swell as will food stamp use... all because you think it's cool small farmers are driven into bankruptcy.

When your town is a Welfare Town, will you be happy?

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Posted by Fractallated firewood on 10/21/2017 at 8:34 AM

Re: “Dark of Night Edits to a Sungrown Ordinance

I find this reminiscent of how local bootleggers got together at the end of prohibition to demand of their local representatives protection from "Big Business", which is of course is why we still pay fifty dollars for a six pack of beer and C-note for a quart of distilled spirits....NOT! It is with a mix of glee and pity that a watch the hypocrisy permeating this budding industry. Boo hoo, I won't be able to sell my illicit weed for exuberant prices. Payroll taxes, workmans comp, insurance, WTF!?

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Posted by HONEST ANSWER1 on 10/19/2017 at 6:14 PM

Re: “Pity and Fury

Very accurate impressions, imnsho.

Thanks; sometimes I want to tear my hair out from this lack of introspection and imagination from my so-called 'community'.

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Posted by outtathere on 10/13/2017 at 7:12 AM

Re: “Grow Local, Grow Natives

John;
I know Monty and don't think that he is against Europeans in particular. He is against the mindset that nature needs to be "tamed". Unfortunately many of the Europeans that came here years ago had that mindset and we now see the results. The natural ecosystems that supported the Native Americans as well as wildlife has been mostly destroyed.

I've read about them to some extent, and the West Coast Native Americans really did largely live in harmony with the natural environment. There were many Native American tribes and their cultures varied considerably. As far as I know the West Coast Native Americans didn't use buffalos.

To say that technologal advancement necessarily means environmental destruction is a cop out. I don't buy it. People can be technologically advanced and at the same time protect the environment. What is needed is for them to care about the environment and about wildlife. If they care about these things they will protect and preserve them.

Posted by Jeff Strehlow on 09/29/2017 at 4:25 PM

Re: “Grow Local, Grow Natives

While I applaud grow local, grow native, I find the eurohate a little ridiculous. I learned in my Environmental Science Class At CR many years ago that every culture impacted their environment to the degree that their technology allowed. Native Americans practiced slash and burn, traded seeds, grew non-native plants, herded buffalo over cliffs.....

Posted by John Nelson on 09/28/2017 at 8:26 PM

Re: “Grow Local, Grow Natives

wimsicle;

I've been working on a website that shows Monty's favorite native foods that can be grown locally. Though the website isn't finished yet, I think it provides the information that you are looking for.

http://pages.suddenlink.net/humboldt_bay_p…

Posted by Jeff Strehlow on 09/26/2017 at 4:45 PM

Re: “Grow Local, Grow Natives

I'd like to know more about indigenous foods and how to begin "bringing them back". Don't have a lot of time for research. Can you help by providing me, first, with a list of maybe 10 foods? Thanks!

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Posted by wimsicle on 09/21/2017 at 10:11 AM

Re: “'Overlooked'

Having known Peter when I was editor of The Redwood Record in Garberville, and having followed him over the years, I can certainly attest to his being a true environmentalist. While we may not have always agreed on some issues, Peter has always had my respect. He is a steward and he certainly is not an ***hole. He's not responsible for all the bad apples who didn't care about the land. I also remember United Stand and all the meetings in Garberville. I also remember receiving a medallion for my coverage of land-use issues from United Stand. All they ever asked for was balanced coverage.

Always a thoughtful and kind person, Peter's experience and the issues he has expressed should certainly be considered by county officials, and I hope this column leads to some more reflection and, perhaps, analysis and action, because the last thing the county needs is more environmental degradation.

Lastly, the thought of generators and the eye and light pollution in Southern Humboldt are disconcerting. Very much so. These are variables that county regulations could be created or stiffened for, because the area's rural nature should be retained and light pollution and noise pollution should not be allowed to the extent that Peter has described, in my opinion.

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Posted by Glenn Franco Simmons on 09/18/2017 at 7:45 PM

Re: “'Overlooked'

To Scott G:

Scott, your astonishing response to my article strikes me as a classic example of the misunderstanding on the part of certain environmentalists that has been a problem in the past, to which I referred briefly in the article. You say that "Real environmentalists can see right through your bullshit". Ill forbear to respond to the second part of that sentence (or the rest of your comments) but with regard to the first:

As a card-carrying Gemini Ive been an activist in several areas over the years, one of which is certainly environmentalism. Soon after we arrived here in 1971 we became aware that the only private parcel of old growth fir in our neighborhood was going to be logged. Two or three of us got together with the landowner and to his credit, he agreed not to log it (we made a strong case).

Then the BLM planned to log Gilham Butte, which had over three hundred acres of virgin old growth fir and was also a part of our neighborhood. A number of us put a substantial amount of effort into preventing that from happening, and we succeeded.

But a new Area Manager opened it up for logging again and we had to do it all over again. This time we ensured its safety by putting it into ACEC (Area of Critical Environmental Concern). For good measure we also created the Old Growth Reserve System within the BLM, through which we saved four more old growth forests in addition to Gilham Butte.

As a result of those activities I served a term as Vice Chair of the Ukiah BLM Citizens Advisory Committee, which term was cut short by the James Watt gang (Reagan's Secretary of the Interior) when they purged advisory committees all over the country of environmentalists. But before I left I got the Committee to approve a strongly worded statement regarding the need for the BLM to protect all the old growth within their jurisdiction.

I was fairly deeply involved in the Timber Wars. I was hauled off in irons (well, plastic) twice; of the roughly fourteen hundred arrestees in the Headwaters Forest demonstrations, I was one of seven who eventually went to trial, where I got considerable satisfaction from entering into the record a plea of "moral necessity".

Then I served on the Board of Directors of Ancient Forest International, which was started by another hippie hill dweller who happened to be a park ranger in Chile during the Pinochet regime (a tale or two there, youd best believe!). We played a significant role in saving a substantial amount of virgin Chilean alerce forest, as well as some magnificent araucaria. I spent several unforgettable days hiking in the Andes in connection with that effort.

So I think I qualify as an environmentalist. As do you; I know that you care deeply about the natural world and that youre as horrified as I am by the way weve treated it, and by the urgent necessity for protecting it. We're on the same team, Scott. Wouldnt it be better all around if we just recognized that fact and treated each other with the respect we deserve?

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Posted by PC on 09/18/2017 at 6:43 AM

Re: “'Overlooked'

Hi Peter, keep writing and sharing your kind-hearted thoughts. Helping communities come to agreement about how we live and work together is always a challenge. Kirk

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Posted by Kirk Gothier1 on 09/17/2017 at 6:23 PM

Re: “'Overlooked'

Peter Childs is a greater environmentalist and more important a better human than Scott Graeson will ever be, One need look no further than their personal lives to see who is f'd up and who has the respect and admiration of multiple generations of knowledgeable and enlightened North Coast residents to know whose life has had value. Thank you Peter for all you have done for the betterment of us all. Your comments are, as usual well thought and well said. Our children could not have a better role model in their personal and professional lives than Perter Childs.

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Posted by Lee Ulansey on 09/16/2017 at 12:27 AM

Re: “'Overlooked'

Peter, I've known since we met in the '70s that you are a fine musician. What I didn't know is that you can write, too! All very well put. I'll look forward to the book version.

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Posted by Tony Lucchesi on 09/15/2017 at 2:04 PM

Re: “'Overlooked'

I like what you say here, Peter. I haven't been here for as long as the original back-to-the-landers, but generally had the same idea as they, and a good number of the people who for decades have been attracted to this area, had: to get away from the rat race, to not pay too much attention to the modern world... more to the birds and the weather and the sun and moon cycles. To learn and live here. To be here because we want to be here.
Now there are so many people who are here as a stepping stone to something else they want. Another place, another lifestyle, money, prestige. Worse, they won't even just do their thing and get out... they change this place while they're at it, as if we were looking for the world and all its plastic here.
Anyway, thank you for writing this. I am going to link it on my Facebook page.

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Posted by Laura Cooskey on 09/15/2017 at 8:28 AM

Re: “'Overlooked'

I like what you say here, Peter. I haven't been here for as long as the original back-to-the-landers, but generally had the same idea as they, and a good number of the people who for decades have been attracted to this area, had: to get away from the rat race, to not pay too much attention to the modern world... more to the birds and the weather and the sun and moon cycles. To learn and live here. To be here because we want to be here.
Now there are so many people who are here as a stepping stone to something else they want. Another place, another lifestyle, money, prestige. Worse, they won't even just do their thing and get out... they change this place while they're at it, as if we were looking for the world and all its plastic here.
Anyway, thank you for writing this. I am going to link it on my Facebook page.

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Posted by Laura Cooskey on 09/14/2017 at 11:47 PM

Re: “'Overlooked'

Drivel, this.

The human residents of Humboldt County are entirely deserving of the cesspool that the county has become in so many, many ways.

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Posted by vkqw4721 on 09/14/2017 at 7:43 PM

Re: “'Overlooked'

Real environmentalists see right through your bullshit, Peter.

The sad, terrible truth is that salmon and steelhead are doing way, way better in watersheds that are entirely industrial timberland than they are in the watersheds chock full of self-deluding "stewards" and the assholes they have always given cover to.

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Posted by Scott G1 on 09/14/2017 at 1:08 PM

Re: “A Restoration Prayer

Bethany willfully ignores the biblical teaching of no female pastors so she is in rebellion towards God along with her congregation.

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Posted by Chris Stone on 08/25/2017 at 1:01 PM

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