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Re: “A Culture of Civility

Janice T, My experience with John Chive's site is that he moderates for conformity to his story line. It is his blog so he can have it, but unless he has changed his practices, it is not one to be held up as a blog representing high standards.

Civility: formal politeness and courtesy in behavior or speech; polite remarks used in formal conversation
Civil: courteous and polite

Is it civil to say those who provide space for the exchange of ideas have "amped" the language you disagree with because you feel stifled? Is it civil to judge someone as "having "no good reason" simply because they do not hide the anger they feel? Is it civil to imply that a minority that becomes vocal is "rabid", or not "even vaguely decent"?

I too think that the NCJ's approach of requiring a registration process that allows anonymity and accountability is a good one, it provides a space for self moderation. I am also glad that there is the more open forum at LoCo as perhaps it does serve a purpose.

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Posted by janelle on 06/26/2017 at 10:53 AM

Re: “A Culture of Civility

Verbena, I was referring only to his comment section, which is moderated. As far as his actual articles, you are correct.

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Posted by Janice T. on 06/25/2017 at 5:44 AM

Re: “A Culture of Civility

This is an Constitutional issue and needs to be approached cautiously. What needs attention is as a mature adult can you be of a civil tongue? If not all will see that and you have done nothing but show your immaturity. Now we have separated the speaker from the speech. This is where that fore mentioned caution needs to come in. Tread lightly keeping in mind this applies to you as well if you are honest.

Posted by Moje1knobe on 06/24/2017 at 6:38 PM

Re: “A Culture of Civility

Speaking to the comment by Janice T (who I don't think I know): John Chiv is anything but decent in his writing and public comments. He is unethical and dishonest. He cares not about how his words harm. Oft times, I believe he intends for his words to cause harm. It is disgusting that Chiv, a person of color, is so committed to kissing the ass of the oppressive, white ruling good ole boy class in Humboldt.

Here are some of my comments:
#BlackLivesMatter #NativeLivesMatter #TransLivesMatter #DefendHomelessPeople #JusticeForJosiah #FuckThePolice #DefendMotherEarth #JusticeForPhilando

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Posted by Verbena on 06/24/2017 at 12:28 AM

Re: “A Culture of Civility

Excellent job! Thank you!!!

Posted by Tori Ann on 06/23/2017 at 11:02 PM

Re: “A Culture of Civility

Do you have an inalienable right to anonymously spew hate speech in our comments section or anyone else's?

Naah--that's what Twitter is for... :-)

Posted by A Guy on 06/23/2017 at 12:19 PM

Re: “A Culture of Civility

Good job, not just managing your site but striving for transparency. I appreciate the effort to keep it both "real" and civil.

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Posted by David Lippman on 06/23/2017 at 10:13 AM

Re: “A Culture of Civility

Thank you so much for this! NCJ and John Chiv seem to be the only ones willing to maintain any sort of decency standards. I'm sick of having to watch every single thing that I say so that I don't draw a pile-on for no good reason. Sometimes it happens anyway, no matter how careful that you are. This is what is truly stifling freedom of speech; a rabid, vocal minority being allowed to control virtually every local blog, amped by the administration of said blogs and running off almost everyone who is even vaguely decent. You are a breath of fresh air!

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Posted by Janice T. on 06/22/2017 at 11:17 AM

Re: “About the Fourth Estate

California has enacted the National Popular Vote bill.

The bill is 61% of the way to guaranteeing the majority of Electoral College votes and the presidency to the candidate who receives the most popular votes in the country, by changing state winner-take-all laws (not mentioned in the U.S. Constitution, but later enacted by 48 states), without changing anything in the Constitution, using the built-in method that the Constitution provides for states to make changes.

All voters would be valued equally in presidential elections, no matter where they live.
Candidates, as in other elections, would allocate their time, money, polling, organizing, and ad buys roughly in proportion to the population

Every vote, everywhere, for every candidate, would be politically relevant and equal in every presidential election.
No more distorting, crude, and divisive and red and blue state maps of predictable outcomes, that dont represent any minority party voters within each state.
No more handful of 'battleground' states (where the two major political parties happen to have similar levels of support) where voters and policies are more important than those of the voters in 38+ predictable states, like California, that have just been 'spectators' and ignored after the conventions.

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Posted by Susan Evoy on 06/22/2017 at 9:26 AM

Re: “A Cannabis Chasm

I don't need somebody to decide if I should get high or not, regardless of the means. That is too ridiculous for words. This isn't the 19th Century.

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Posted by Nan Roberts on 06/19/2017 at 9:17 AM

Re: “Black Lives and Good Faith

yes.

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Posted by Renata Renata on 06/18/2017 at 10:02 PM

Re: “A Cannabis Chasm

Heidi Messner was not elected. She does not speak for the people.

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Posted by Fred Fletcher on 06/17/2017 at 7:34 AM

Re: “Black Lives and Good Faith

You speak wise words Brenna! Now is the time to make way for POC, to highlight a very important issue of social justice: #BLM #BlackLivesMatter #NIOT #SayHerName

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Posted by Ady No Se Rinde on 06/15/2017 at 10:06 PM

Re: “Smells Fishy

Here's the best way to check out the veracity of unnamed sources: Watch what unfolds. Did Flynn make phone calls to Russia and discuss sanctions? Yes he did. Did Donald Trump discuss Israeli intelligence with Russians in the Oval Office? Yes he did. Is Donald Trump being investigated for obstruction of justice? Per Donald's own tweets the day after the story was reported via "an anonymous source," he is indeed under investigation.
It's actually pretty easy. Read and wait. There's going to be lots of truth coming from unnamed sources in the foreseeable future. Get used to it and learn from it.
By the way, The NY Times issues corrections and retractions, often several per day.

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Posted by Brian Nash on 06/15/2017 at 9:17 PM

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