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Re: “Round 'em up

Confidentiality of the mediation was not part of the agreement, it was discussed but was decided it wasn't necessary.

Posted by Krauses on 06/17/2011 at 7:30 PM

Re: “Round 'em up

The Kinetic Race gets it's insurance from here: "Francis L. Dean & Associates is a national general underwriting facility specializing in sports and student related risks." (Home Page} See: http://fdeanca.com/about.asp Age of insured is NOT the problem here. We would welcome a visit from CPS, or even you John. Let's see who the bad guys really are in this issue. While Kinetic Universe was dragging their feet in signing a contract with Justin Hobart Brown I was asked to begin getting "back up" permits for the Race. I started May 2, I was usually calling before KU did. I was very diligent in asking if there were age requirements for the event. THERE ARE NONE. The answer was always, "as long as we are listed as additionally insured on the policy we don't care about age of the participants" This decision to enforce a rule created by former Kinetic Universe member Elin Beltz, {remember her? See Hobart's Children: http://www.northcoastjournal.com/news/2009/01/22/hobarts-children/} was paybacks to Al and I using our girls as pawns. Al and I sat with Justin during mediation for 5 hours across the table from Monica Topping, Katy Texas-Ward, Suzanne Ross-Kohl and later when a quorum was needed, Laura Granedos. After 2 hours they finally agreed to start looking over the contract, by hour 4, the final version spelled out a few changes including I should not call any of the permitting agencies or sponsors. Justin agreed to leave the rules as they were because they said all the printing had been done. They would not acknowledge Justin's ownership of the Rutabaga Queen contest saving it to discuss later. With these concessions by both sides and the understanding that the age rule would not be in the rules next year the contract was to expire June 15, 2011 and we were to meet again for new negotiations June 30. The payment of 19.69 and 4 t-shirts has not been paid. The Humboldt Kinetic Association, The Hobart Brown Trust, and Justin Hobart Brown never received additionally insured certificates promised. Looks like the contract wasn't valid.
The Tiger and Amazons entry was already registered, on all the timing and judging sheets, and approved the night before by race registrar Jenette Kane. We did not force ourselves into the race, we had already been admitted. Maybe you should have been on the plaza John, you would have seen 2 young women eloquently calling to the crowd to support their cause, the crowd reaction was positive and loud. How embarrassing for KU. Throughout the race spectators and racers came forward to us and the girls voicing their support of the team and disgust at the treatment they were receiving. The comments were all positive and greatly appreciated. Tess and Sara and the whole team worked months and trained hard to come to the race. They will be back next year and are already planning their art theme.

Posted by Alice Krause on 06/09/2011 at 9:35 AM

Re: “Know Your 2011 Kinetic Sculptures! (UPDATING!) (NOW WITH SOUND!)

The actual history on this is as follows: Hobart went to the CHP seeking a way for the sculptures to be allowed on the streets, in a meeting with CHP Capt. Bruce Roberts, Hobart asked if sculptures could be recognized as farm equipment. Capt. Roberts said they looked more like bicycles to him and that became the decision, Kinetic Sculptures are recognized as bicycle by the California Highway Patrol and all related bicycle vehicle codes apply. while Racer Five thinks he is building parade floats he is really building a "bicycle" to take part in an art race. if they weren't classed as bicycles the route would have to be completely closed to traffic and the costs for that would be WAY more than the $ 1095 (one thousand and ninety-five dollars) insurance bill for the 2010 race. insurance is not the boogie man here, porta pots cost three times as much!

Posted by al krause on 06/02/2011 at 9:20 AM

Re: “Know Your 2011 Kinetic Sculptures! (UPDATING!) (NOW WITH SOUND!)

there has been at least one pilot under the age limit every year for the last six. Mason was allowed to race in violation of this rule, and even steer the sculpture the entire distance. "whirred peas" had a 11 year old pilot last year as well. the age limit is knowingly not enforced if the Kinetic Universe likes you. (Mason's mother told us their entry forms always said he was 17 and she 29 ) KU knew about our entry well in advance and we were told that it would be overlooked (like all those other children on sculptures) the night before the race I called to confirm out entry and there was no problem with the team until we got to the plaza. we were on all the score and timing sheets that were produced in advance. there were several other teen age teams out there from other high schools , none were asked for ID. This is all on Monica, we were cleared until race morning when we were then refused.

Posted by al krause on 06/01/2011 at 7:40 AM

Re: “Know Your 2011 Kinetic Sculptures! (UPDATING!) (NOW WITH SOUND!)

My mother ran the race from 77-86, when I was a teen our home was kinetic central, in those days there were twice the number of sculptures in the race. I was on the rules committee from 77-90 and a steering committee member in 96-97. 22 years of participation as a pilot, so yea, I think I know how a good race is run...

Posted by al krause on 05/31/2011 at 2:03 PM

Re: “Game of Kinetic Chicken (updated)

I'd pay the $20 and 4 t-shirts...

Posted by pit crew on 05/13/2011 at 8:22 PM

Re: “Game of Kinetic Chicken (updated)

Monica claims its the 6th year being called KGC but the poster and website claim it to be the 43 annual.... Which is it? Is it a 6 year old race or a 43 year old race? Hobart felt he owned it when he was alive...

Posted by pit crew on 05/13/2011 at 6:34 PM

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