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Re: “The Big Chill

No need to dream Kathy, come join the Eureka Fair Wage Initiative in registering Eureka's neglected working families that need a raise out of public services.

Posted by Alan Moss on 04/11/2014 at 12:16 AM

Re: “The Big Chill

The culture wars in this county are old and tiresome. "Good Old Boys" have had power long enough and it's long past time they pay their dues to the human race and embrace the diverse cultures by accommodating all of us, equally. Yes, I'm a dreamer.

Posted by Kathy Anderson on 04/01/2014 at 12:43 AM

Re: “The Big Chill

Mark Sailors,
I understand your skepticism.
But I find skepticism so debilitating and I hate being a victim, so I just try to do what I can where I can...
By the way, I used your photo in https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B-uTx6Hua…

Posted by janelle1 on 03/28/2014 at 6:11 PM

Re: “The Big Chill

I can't help but see things in cost perspective, as the public's money is always an issue. Over $20,000 of our tax money was just spent to pay for the planning commission to illegally rewrite less than a printed page of land use documents. $20,000 for a handful of closed-door meetings that nobody asked for. Less than half that amount of money could and should be infinitely better spent cleaning up a spontaneous holiday in a public place formed by the people themselves to do nothing more than celebrate eachother's freedom to be free. That cleanup money means paychecks for the county's diligent grunt workers as well. It is money very well spent any way you look at it. When was the last time in human history such an event as 4/20 occurred? Military operations involving death and mayhem? 4/20 and such events as the now-defunct plaza gathering on Halloween are genuine peaceful holidays for and by the people sans government direction. In fact, counter to government direction. That's a very VERY good thing! It's a phenomenon that should be embraced. I agree completely with marcy's take on the disillusioning methods of squelching public gatherings. It's like the concept of freedom being redefined altogether, in "the land of the free" of all places.

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Posted by power to the people! on 03/28/2014 at 12:06 PM

Re: “The Big Chill

Good luck with that freedom thing, it's been a joke since 9/11

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Posted by Mark Sailors on 03/28/2014 at 9:18 AM

Re: “The Big Chill

I have an addition to this proud list of assemblies, though it probably maxed at about 25 brave souls. In 2003, after a few months of weekly Women in Black vigils in front of the Fortuna Vets Hall we were asked to leave and told the police might be called to arrest us for trespassing. I called the Police Chief. He nicely asked us to decide we had been there long enough. I stood one last time by myself, just to say no, we haven’t.

According to the current draft agenda memo on April Fools Day Human Rights Commission Policy Statement and Recommendations is on the Board of Supervisors' Agenda to discuss and take appropriate action, if necessary. Before insisting on a copy of the draft I thought it was there only for discussion, because that is what I had been told.

I was at the meeting when the draft came out of five months of private meetings last August. A new Commissioner asked about the phrase, "usually without incident." She was told the only incident was Occupy Eureka.

The Board order sent this to the Human Rights Commission to "further review of Ordinance 2477." There is no review of the ordinance. No mention of Occupy Eureka, the first weeks of peaceful assembly, two months of raids, police and then staff imposed restrictions, a winter without shelter, or months of confiscated signs.

Unspecified “health and safety” issues are mentioned. But no mention of Occupy Eureka’s offer to provide a nighttime toilet, the ban on any rain shelter, or the evening and weekend closure of the public toilet in the jail lobby. The ad hoc committee indicated last October there wasn’t time to review the “complaints” justifying this “health and safety” ordinance.

They might have found that 18 of the incidents involved the taking of demonstrators’ signs, 6 involved a “tent,” “structure,” or “kiosk.” Zero incidents involved food, tables or presence on the grounds that interfered with the flow of pedestrians. All of these are restrictions applied to Occupy Eureka by fiat first by the Eureka Police Department, then by County staff, and then in the "health and safety" codes.

They would have had to insist on getting a less edited version to know that one fine fellow who enjoyed the attention was involved in 32 incidents like drunk in public, kicking things, and being involved in a disturbance. Another loud and sometimes angry woman is in 21 incidents. Sixteen people who I talked with about issues of public policy were involved in those sign and temporary shelter incidents and 12 other incidents, mostly sleeping or camping incidents.

And as for the fine fellow and loud woman, I bet they had something they wanted to communicate. I felt threatened only twice. Once it was just an aggressive posture and the evil eye. As it seemed to me the person was angry because my quest for water on a warm afternoon had ended with a locked jail bathrooms, this silly do-gooder just moved out of the way. The other was when a bunch of police arrived at 11:30 at night to remove the canopy over the table. Realizing I was witnessing armed robbery I left them to it and took pictures of license plates.

But I am very glad that the Commission is again recommending repeal.

The policy statement will neither protect rights nor avoid future misuse of law enforcement resources; it isn't necessary and could do more harm than good.

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Posted by janelle1 on 03/27/2014 at 5:41 PM

Re: “What's Not To Know

Have any of you ever thought this through before playing political football with the Brown Act? In ANY functioning decision-making group there MUST be a time when decision-makers can discuss the issues WITHOUT public input because that is the ONLY way to get past public political pressure groups, you know, the very kind that enviro and Prog activist love to field into any economic development issue in the community. How else to be able to talk to each other without a screaming audience in your face and emotions running all over place?

Grow up, Proggies and stop playing politics with community decision-makers. If you don't like what they do, vote them out but this continual political sniping wars like Judy does with her gang of clones like Marci and former Ryan plus the staged attacks on Supes or Harbor Commission meetings, the only way to see around them for the public good is to be able to talk to each other--without pressure group influence.

Posted by Stephen1 on 03/10/2014 at 6:54 AM

Re: “What's Not To Know

You know, Marci, you are something else. How you are allowed to be Chair of HSU' Journalism and Mass Communications and hold your job as political attack pitbull for Judy's NCJ rag is something we need to look into. You are violating big time teacher's obligation to NOT drag their personal or PAID political opinions into the classroom and now someone has to monitor your classes to see what you are teaching students.
Here you stand for Yellow Journalism like Judy, both of you trying to ratchet up hate speech and slander against your political opponents and using this NCJ venue to do so. This is you, Marci, doing ad hominen hate speech against a political opponent.

"They learned the hard way that if you are trying to tamp down a scandal (last June, board member Dan Johnson gave a speech on behalf of the board at Arcata High School's graduation that he found off the Internet, and then refused to apologize for his act of plagiarism) members can't go emailing each other to get around public disclosure. Johnson missed the training session.

Maybe he was too busy interviewing for the job as HSU president. I wouldn't know."

The Dan Johnson issue is over a year old and both you and Judy are still at the guy's throat after thoroughly smearing him all over your rag for months last year. It's sickening that you are an HSU Chairperson and propels me to contact HSU to find out how they allow paid Journalism teacher to work for political rags smearing local people's names. We'll find out if you are breaking California teacher rules about engaging in political work for pay while teaching students.

Posted by Stephen1 on 03/08/2014 at 2:19 PM

Re: “What's Not To Know

down here in texas we have an open meetings act people get put away for doing behind the door stuff maybe y'all need some teeth into a proposition NO> ??? throw a few sneaks in jail and never hold office again???

Posted by slufoot on 03/07/2014 at 1:56 PM

Re: “What's Not To Know

so you got the info for this column, including the supposed name of the committee, from the minutes and the op-ed by the Harbor Working Group, which is not part of the committee...ok.

Posted by McKinleyvillan1 on 03/02/2014 at 7:41 PM

Re: “What's Not To Know

A joint committee performing a task?

From the CA Attorney General's Brown Act pamphlet:
When a legislative body designates less than a quorum of its members that does not constitute a standing committee to meet with representatives of another legislative body to exchange information and report back to their respective bodies, a meeting between the representatives would be exempt from the Act. ...However, if a legislative body designates less than a quorum of its members to meet with representatives of another legislative body to perform a task, such as the making of a recommendation, an advisory committee consisting of the representatives from both bodies would be created. Such a committee would be subject to the open meeting and notice provisions of the Act. (Joiner v. City of Sebastopol (1981) 125 Cal.App.3d 799, 805.)

last paragraph, page 5 at http://ag.ca.gov/publications/2003_Main_Br…
(FYI--pamphlet is in places, Table of contents and intro at http://ag.ca.gov/publications/2003_Intro_B…

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Posted by Janelle Egger1 on 02/28/2014 at 7:25 PM

Re: “What's Not To Know

This is entirely in keeping with the stealth takeover of the Board of Supervisors. Of course, if you know the names and you know who backs them, you will know what the agenda is.

Posted by terence marlow1 on 02/28/2014 at 11:48 AM

Re: “What's Not To Know

If you like Brown act violations, go to a Harbor District meeting. Its scary how much goes on behind closed doors around there. Oh yea, guess who is heading the new AHHA committee, yup Mike Wilson.

Posted by MONTE on 02/28/2014 at 9:21 AM

Re: “What's Not To Know

Marcy, thanks. the Brown Act is a pain in the ass on purpose! I've sat on boards, (small, local) and although I couldn't possibly know all of the rules, one was made very very clear, you must give the public the truth, and you cannot hide in secret meetings, or secret e-mails.
As a board member it may seem like the various individuals are trying to stop you just because they don't like you personally, but their concerns are being voiced because they feel strong enough to challenge the process, a very American idea.
I'm surprised there aren't more comments already posted. maybe you and I are the only ones outside the committee that cares. That would be sad for Humboldt.

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Posted by Growley Tracy on 02/28/2014 at 7:51 AM

Re: “Defending Singleton

FROM: "LIVING HIS EPITAPH"
"THE BRIEF BALLAD OF JOE"

A Big Grudge
Irrelevant Facts
Unproven Assertions
Petty Attacks


A Big Ego
Weak Of Wit
Quick To Dodge
With Childish Quips


Launch A Lie
Sprinkle Deceit
Add Hypocrisy
It Spelled Defeat

Posted by Anonymouss on 02/08/2014 at 7:06 PM

Re: “Defending Singleton

He's still clinging onto every word....neglecting his "pecking" obsession on SOOO many other blogs. How did they manage all this time without this childish quipster?

Look out...here he comes, he's finished here!

Posted by Anonymouss on 02/07/2014 at 11:55 PM

Re: “Defending Singleton

Thanks for the brevity — I actually read that one. The longer comments, not so much.

Posted by Joel Mielke on 02/07/2014 at 9:22 AM

Re: “Defending Singleton

He's still clinging to every word.

Posted by Anonymouss on 02/06/2014 at 11:43 PM

Re: “Defending Singleton

He's still pecking away.

Posted by Joel Mielke on 02/06/2014 at 4:33 PM

Re: “Defending Singleton

It is commendable that you enjoy reading “a lot” because your immense burden of irrational feelings is all you possess on this issue. Denying responsibility and blaming others are also dysfunctional and irrational behaviors, for example, stop reading!

Media and blogs are slathered with daily reporting of victims and perpetrators, yet, no one knows what the average settlement totaled for Mr. Singleton’s 259 cases over the last 20 years (not 15). No one has reported how many businesses (claim) to be bankrupted as a result. And no one has access to the financial records of a single business claiming to be “victimized”.

Thank you for an intimate experience with mob mentality, it feels like debating a drunk.

Drool on...

Posted by Anonymouss on 02/06/2014 at 12:18 PM

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