As far as I can tell, you are upset with me because I think people who don't vote are not fulfilling their responsibility as citizens. If that's it, that's at least accurate, because I really do think that. Or perhaps you are upset with me because I don't think this is primarily due to a concerted conspiratorial effort by the media to suppress voter turnout and hide America's problems. That's OK, too, because I don't think that's the cause of low voter turnout.
In the meantime, I continue to feel that Americans can accomplish far more by writing-in Pee Wee Herman than by not voting at all, but I also continue to feel that only people with remarkably privileged lives and/or an overwhelming determination to ignore the obvious can truly fail to see the difference in people's lives between an Obama presidency and a Romney presidency.
A Nader presidency or a LaDuke presidency would be very different than a typical presidency, though Congress and the court would have prevented such an administration from achieving many of its goals, just as Congress and the court have prevented the Obama administration from creating as much change as it might have hoped to create. But the 70% of people who don't vote didn't think it was worth it to vote for Nader/LaDuke, either. Unless there have been guns held to "those people"'s heads, or armed police preventing them from getting to the polling places, I think their decisions not to vote were irresponsible. "Victimhood" is just an excuse.
Its sad. To see. What's going on in humboldt. Life's and dreams shot to hell all for greed. I have some paper work. I only hope to get out to the public.anyone really want the truth about good old pat g. At fnt. In eureka. How about humboldt. Land title o lets not leave out farmers ins.company in so hum lost are home not from us doing wrong. Want the truth talk to me. Anytime Randy from 705 twin trees rd garberville ca not hard to fine me ask most anyone in g ville. I have some real news for anyone real not about money its about real life's. And the ones who are ripping us off that should be helping us that's what we pay them for. Open your eyes and hearts see the truth. If u have a heart
It is an astounding leap of logic to wax poetic about the breadth and depth of corruption you call the “American election” only to demean the victims as spoiled children, and worse, “uncaring”. I suppose this is an improvement from your earlier bigotry on a local blog where you used, “Those People”. Have you considered using aliases?
“Those Uncaring Child-People” are the vast majority and, despite your denials, their absence from the polls has changed everything in the last 35 years. Use you imagination.
Also, the point of propaganda is to obfuscate, thus, there is painfully little public reality whatsoever in “plain sight” contrary to your assertions. Even in rural weeklies appearing to cover rural election and political news, we never see the mere mention of the overwhelming context and national disgrace of having the lowest voter turnouts in the industrialized world. EVER. Would relevant and routine reports of reality begin to return folks to the poles? Probably. Would regular headlines covering the unprecedented number of our neighbors being bankrupted, foreclosed, and catapulted into poverty, including the biggest causes? Undoubtedly. Will they ever see this? Never.
“They who put out the peoples eyes reproach them of their blindness” (John Milton 1624).
Self-government is hard. I can understand those who go to the polls and write-in names like Pee Wee Herman to express their opinion of the system. I agree that our political system is heavily tilted by the effects of wealth and income inequality, that propagandists lose no opportunity to increase that tilt while denying its existence, and that, at the national level, respectable candidates who will not give the wealthiest what they want are usually filtered out long before they reach the ballot.
American elections are not about letting an informed electorate choose its leadership. In the TV age, they are competing propaganda campaigns. This is not hidden; political junkies watch the horse race and debate the wisdom of "putting an extra million into Ohio" to run more advertising in order to shift the outcome. This is all in plain sight, blessed by the same "supreme" court that shamed and delegitimized itself with its indefensible decision in Bush v Gore.
Despite that, my personal belief is that not voting is about as effective a driver of change as threatening to hold your breath until the spinach is removed from your plate. It's too easily confused with not caring. By all means, people should be doing far more than just voting. But that doesn't excuse not voting -- I firmly believe that an Obama administration is not identical in its effect on society as a Romney administration would have been.
While it's important to have a system people trust, (like the old manual methods that worked fine), U.S. elections will remain illegitimate and easily corrupted no matter how accurate the count, due to the 70% of eligible voters that continue to abstain for over a generation!
As long as political reporting keeps treating this overwhelming public reality as an "unrelated story", (self-censorship) the public has no idea of the impacts, except for a general feeling that the system is corrupt....and they'll have no part in it!
Anyone who wants to can get the images and count the votes themselves -- that's the point.
For those who are concerned that both the elections office and the volunteers that provide this service are tricking them with altered scans, I can only suggest that they volunteer to participate in the scanning process. Come ready to work, not to discuss politics.
I would rather expect to see Stephen Lewis (Stephen 1) trolling the more populated comment sections of the LoCO. At least he got through his entire comment without using his favorite word, "prog."
I feel sooo secure now knowing Trachtenberg and (hidden) partner identity fraud Richard Salzman are counting our Humboldt County votes. It's so reassuring to see how a fellow Progressive political activist managed to round up 21 votes to win over her political political opponent.
Thanks for offering the candid reality that no one dares to utter in Sacramento or D.C.: The potential electorate is abandoned because they are not trusted. Why would anyone want an abused and angry dog off its leash? Will there be an FDR, or a dictator that finally throws them a bone? First come first serve?
The question is not "if we could inspire more people" but why a local or national effort is never made.
It's never been done in Humboldt County, so we are forced to wonder what would happen if canvassers no longer had to skip 5-10 homes to find the next Dem/Grn/Ind voter? For example, what if volunteers took the trouble and demonstrated the interest in educating each unregistered household on Cheryl Seidner's actual leadership credentials and 27 years of public service ensuring that underprivileged kids get a college education?
The next lost opportunity in this unbroken legacy will be Eureka's popular Fair Wage Initiative that registered more voters with a tiny handful of volunteers than the HCDCC has registered in years. Is the HCDCC or the Greens gearing up to educate and register non-voting households on this fundamental democratic issue?
We can continue to bitch about the unwashed masses, or we can decide to pass the soap.
I too use to think that more people should vote, but I've come to realize that most non-voters are so entirely uninformed that we may better off with them not voting!
IF we could inspire more people to have the intellectual curiosity to want to know something more about the issues we face as a society and to not assume that any one media sources is giving them both sides of every story, then I would be pleased to have those folks vote.
Great, another neatly written election piece that can join virtually all the others in omitting the overwhelming context of this story: only about 30% of eligible voters are participating.
Congratulations on the award.
It appears that Keven Collins is much more than a "commercial fisherman", not that anyone around here needs any inspiration, 70% aren't even noteworthy!
I'd find it interesting if the people who are "disliking" some of the comments here would provide us with their point-of-view. Seriously... what is it about my comments and the other comments that you dislike?
After having attending both employee meetings, as well as the public forum today, I can say that the staff of Redwood Memorial Hospital, the Physicians, and the public have done a great service to the community by speaking out! Thank you everyone!
Still, I'm left with the feeling that the Board will decide to downsize OBGYN services here at RMH, or strip it out altogether and move it up to Eureka. I hope Humboldt County keeps the pressure, the heat, on the Board, but I also hope we can come up with some viable alternatives.
The shortage of Physicians, shortage of Lab Technicians(I work in the lab at RMH), and others is an issue that needs addressing by all of us.
I say let Jack Anderson and other community members take the recruitment reigns for Redwood Memorial Hospital. Let the folks invested in St. Joseph Hospital take the reigns for recruitment up there. Let's see some local action taken place because it's obvious that what the St. Joseph Health System has been up to so far has been ineffective.
I understand the difficulties recruiting new, young, doctors here as well as other medical professionals, but I cannot accept there are "0" doctors interested in working here out of all the graduates at all of the med schools.
How terribly unfortunate that the St Joseph perinatal department is having their staff meeting at the same exact time as the public meeting is being held. Just so the public knows, the staff meeting was planned well before the Fortuna meeting. It's a real shame that the Powers that Be did not take this into account when scheduling the community forum so that concerned providers would be free to participate in both meetings. Whoops!
where can you take classes locally?
I know I went on the other day about Redwood Memorial Hospital and the St Joseph Health System, but our system has such a large share of the health care business here in Humboldt that what's going on in this county is directly related to the politics of the St Joseph Health System.
Mad River Hospital is important also and I know several people who work there. We need the focus to be on a balanced plan and cooperation between all players so that the people of Humboldt County and our visitors can have good medical care. I don't see that happening currently, but I do hope this current issue stimulates people to take a harder look at what's going on here.
If you can, please make it to the public meeting at the RiverLodge in Fortuna, Thursday December 5, at noon. Screwy time for sure, but I do hope folks will attend en masse!
I'll be there up until the time I go to work at 1500.
Dr. Nevill is also leaving soon
Since when is being on call 24 hours a day 6 days a week considered 3/4 time!! Sounds like a full time job to me!
New Zealand and Humboldt have much more than rainfall in common...their right-wing christian agenda makes a return visit highly unlikely, we have all we can stand right here.
No comments.... really?
I'll comment... it appears by the actions of those in charge that the St. Joseph Health System has a low regard for what the people of Humboldt County want or need. Their primary concerns are pushing their hard-line Catholic agenda in this secluded area (they've been establishing their monopoly here for years), and being more corporate instead of more community health conscious.
I'm not surprised that Mad River's numbers have grown... St. Joseph Health System has routinely pissed off the medical professionals in the area, pissed off the other community members, then held out their hand asking people to donate money for poorly-planned projects like the White Elephant in Eureka (aka "The Tower"). Historically, Redwood Memorial Hospital has operated in a more efficient, more economically stable manner than St. Joseph Hospital in Eureka. We went through all this the last time they tried to take OB/GYN services from Fortuna to Eureka. The numbers were there then.
There are great employees at both campuses and at General Hospital... it's the poor leadership we have had year-after-year (Joe Marks, Mike Purvis..... ), and the blind leadership from Santa Rosa and Orange, who are assisting in taking down health care in this county.
Poor management decisions leading to overspending, continued "missions" to places like Napa for the administration, managers from Eureka overseeing both hospital campuses and making poor choices are driving down morale and driving up costs here. The stress is palpable so much more than in years past. In Fortuna, at Redwood Memorial Hospital, we have people talking more and more about retiring or finding some other way out of here, solely because the administration seems to lack the ability to recognize the "Human" aspect of Human Resources and show a genuine concern for the community.
I asked Joe Marks and one of the Sisters once during an employee meeting (back when we were going through this several years ago), if the plan was to strip Redwood Memorial of it's viable services, use those services to prop up St Joseph Hospital so it could be sold, then leave Humboldt County for good? The Sister went on about how important Redwood was to Humboldt County and on about the significance of it's history here and that they would never do such a thing.
Well, here we are again.
Just a small example of the games played... the town meeting... Thursday, December 5th at the River Lodge in Fortuna... it's at NOON! How many people do you think can get away from commitments at noon to attend a public forum? How many people who depend on RMH and it's OB/GYN services but live miles away from Fortuna will be able to drive up here for a meeting at noon? Not to mention the physicians and employees of the health system who will be working and unable to attend. Whoever set that one up is either plain ignorant or maybe pretty damn sneaky.
I not only work at RMH, I use this hospital for my own medical care, my family's care, and it serves my community... the people who fix my car so it runs safe and reliable, the people who fix food at the establishments I go to for breakfast/lunch/dinner, the people who provide me with so much more, helping to meet my personal needs day-in and day-out. This hospital is important to me and those I live with in Fortuna. The Sisters of Orange and their Corporate leaders should be better stewards of Humboldt County's health care.
To "My my": Que Dios te Bendiga! -- Courtney's Mom, Candace McC
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